Active Users:354 Time:02/07/2025 02:18:42 AM
And you're fairly appalling in either pretending to misunderstand free markets or in your stupidity Cannoli Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 03:00:21 AM
Actually - I have to take back the topic I'm afraid. That's not an 'amusing' argument at all. It's a truly and utterly sick one.

By such standards, the 'free market' should be fine with any and all discrimination.
If you can prove that would happen. Jim Crow was GOVERNMENT policy, not the market at work.

If society decides never to hire black people except for work in the fields then - well that's okay, right? After all, people are just 'following their beliefs'.
Your absurd view of society as monolithic is what is amusing. At some point, black people who did not want to work in the fields would offer their labor elsewhere at an advantageous price, and some business would accept that offer and employ black people in order to gain a competitive advantage. The "society" you speak of is exactly what I seek to avoid by endorsing a free-market! It is LAWS that cause such practices, and these are laws that inhibit trade and work, you imbecile! Why don't you find a post where I endorse only a partially free market? If the free market is truly practiced, and the government ARE prohibited from interfering in it, your scenario would NOT happen! Segregation is NOT a free market practice. How on earth is specifying the conditions under which businesses may serve their customers a free market practice? How is specifying who a employer may hire, and what labor he may employ particular individuals at, part of a free market?

If you choose to fire any woman who won't strip at company parties, that's okay too right? After all - if those are your beliefs...
Companies that did NOT require such practices would have a competitive advantage in hiring female employees. Unless you think women are too inept for an employer to seek to hire one for her beneficial qualities?

We have constitutions and laws BECAUSE minorities need to be protected. If we didn't the majority will often abuse and marginalize them. Sometimes even enslave or kill them.
What exactly, is a novelty practice like same sex marriage protecting anyone from? The principle you cite is needed to protect people from having to fund such farcical practices because of the fashions among those with power.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless

“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
This message last edited by Cannoli on 27/01/2010 at 03:01:30 AM
Reply to message
I may have lost a friend over same sex marriage - 17/01/2010 08:03:26 AM 1503 Views
the problem with your friend is the "southern evangelical christian" part - 17/01/2010 09:07:02 AM 812 Views
They believe gay marriage is ongoing unrepentant sin. - 17/01/2010 12:04:58 PM 809 Views
God your a moron. - 17/01/2010 09:10:17 PM 761 Views
be nice - 18/01/2010 06:26:58 AM 668 Views
<shrug> They can believe that all that they like - 18/01/2010 08:07:28 PM 721 Views
And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 18/01/2010 11:10:51 PM 724 Views
Re: And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 20/01/2010 10:40:36 PM 675 Views
It is, I believe, hardest for the intelligent educated man. - 21/01/2010 10:29:39 AM 810 Views
You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 17/01/2010 10:12:11 AM 707 Views
LOL... *NM* - 18/01/2010 05:21:14 AM 387 Views
You and Adam are being equally unconstructive. - 18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM 624 Views
why do you imply "constructive" is in anyway the intent? *NM* - 18/01/2010 06:32:27 AM 305 Views
*shrug* I never stopped believing in lost causes? - 18/01/2010 07:36:04 AM 628 Views
Re: You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 18/01/2010 06:28:41 AM 763 Views
Always welcome. - 18/01/2010 07:31:27 AM 871 Views
We finally converted you - 17/01/2010 08:43:25 PM 647 Views
Not much of a friend then. Good ridance to bad friends. *NM* - 17/01/2010 08:51:02 PM 445 Views
I agree. A friend who can't respect differences of opinion is no friend at all. *NM* - 17/01/2010 09:11:33 PM 308 Views
seriously. *NM* - 17/01/2010 10:46:17 PM 263 Views
Only because such sentiment is my pet peeve...condemning exclusivity is hypocritical. *NM* - 19/01/2010 12:37:37 AM 333 Views
yeah no kidding - 18/01/2010 06:30:45 AM 633 Views
It forces other people to accept THEIR ideology that same sex unions are legitimate. - 18/01/2010 01:49:20 AM 809 Views
I would assume, then, that you don't support any government-mandated health care? - 18/01/2010 02:07:40 AM 629 Views
Correct - 18/01/2010 04:29:04 AM 708 Views
Although I disagree with the vast majority of your arguments, - 18/01/2010 08:50:09 AM 702 Views
Thank you. - 20/01/2010 01:47:34 AM 857 Views
Please tell me you have a source for that quotation. Other than me. - 21/01/2010 12:31:27 PM 724 Views
It's GK Chesterton! What the hell are you going on about? - 27/01/2010 02:41:00 AM 597 Views
Link? - 27/01/2010 09:28:22 AM 695 Views
I can't find a link to the exact quote - 27/01/2010 12:14:19 PM 804 Views
Re: Link? - 27/01/2010 01:38:36 PM 826 Views
Perhaps we should define our terms more precisely. - 15/02/2010 11:28:09 AM 1195 Views
we do not exist in a free market. - 18/01/2010 04:09:37 AM 638 Views
And that's bad. Since when has the correct response to oppression been "accept further oppression"? *NM* - 18/01/2010 04:30:44 AM 312 Views
I am simply pointing out your arguments do not apply to the present economic environment. - 18/01/2010 04:46:04 AM 585 Views
No I am not. - 19/01/2010 10:44:31 PM 717 Views
That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:19:57 AM 666 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:41:27 AM 684 Views
civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 18/01/2010 04:49:12 AM 665 Views
Re: civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 19/01/2010 10:47:18 PM 724 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:13:54 AM 669 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 19/01/2010 10:59:45 PM 634 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:15:50 AM 773 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 20/01/2010 01:38:37 AM 555 Views
Are you at all surprised? - 18/01/2010 07:59:30 AM 657 Views
A truly free country means I don't have the freedom to shoot you - 18/01/2010 05:57:44 AM 755 Views
You really said nothing, right there. - 18/01/2010 08:34:33 AM 705 Views
I presume you are equally against the current set up - 18/01/2010 12:31:33 PM 739 Views
He said as much in his response to me above. *NM* - 18/01/2010 09:37:49 PM 251 Views
That's such an amusing argument - 18/01/2010 08:17:15 PM 619 Views
And you're fairly appalling in either pretending to misunderstand free markets or in your stupidity - 27/01/2010 03:00:21 AM 828 Views
Your 'Free Market' is very much like Communism - 05/02/2010 04:51:37 PM 657 Views
I'm against people with pasta based nicknames on fantasy forums *NM* - 19/01/2010 03:03:31 PM 273 Views
cannoli is a pastry *NM* - 19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM 249 Views
I have no problem with people with pastry based names, just pasta - 21/01/2010 12:28:44 AM 595 Views
I can't help but find it funny - 18/01/2010 12:51:57 PM 608 Views
So... - 18/01/2010 03:39:33 PM 747 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out - 18/01/2010 04:11:05 PM 631 Views
you acept your friends with their warts or you don't - 18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM 734 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out *NM* - 18/01/2010 08:01:25 PM 230 Views
I don't think it was that clear - 18/01/2010 10:01:32 PM 658 Views
I don't think it is all that clear yet, either - 18/01/2010 10:27:54 PM 688 Views
I wasn't taking sides - 18/01/2010 10:57:39 PM 567 Views

Reply to Message