I think that works in the short term but not in the long term
snoopcester Send a noteboard - 26/01/2010 03:47:52 PM
If a person is convinced that he can find a better job, taking a job that is worse may preclude him from finding the better job. However, it's all a question of judgment. At some point, you have to start thinking about paying bills regardless of what you think.
Of course, people with skills that they can market on their own would be crazy to take bad jobs. For example, someone with a medical, law or accounting degree would be crazy and/or stupid to take a job flipping burgers, because those people could always set up their own office.
I guess what I'm saying is I agree with you in this case but I don't think it's as easy as saying, "Beggars can't be choosers."
Of course, people with skills that they can market on their own would be crazy to take bad jobs. For example, someone with a medical, law or accounting degree would be crazy and/or stupid to take a job flipping burgers, because those people could always set up their own office.
I guess what I'm saying is I agree with you in this case but I don't think it's as easy as saying, "Beggars can't be choosers."
No one who studied at University should have to collect other people's garbage. I know I wouldn't.
Presumably somebody who could set up their own shop should at least be expected to do that in lieu of mooching off their friends
I hear what you are both saying, but for me, if I got to the point where I could not support myself and would need to impose on friends or family to get by, I'd take any damn job I could get. I think that's what Tom was saying, too, in the bolded statement above.
I'd take a lot of jobs, but not any
I wouldn't have a problem asking my family to help me out, but not friends. I did not work hard at Uni for years to sweep streets. The word overqualified exists for a reason 
Either way, I didn't mean to defend the poster's friend's attitude, mostly because we don't know more about the case than this short post, but it also always bugs me a bit when people go all "just work whatever!" on someone who is worth a lot more than that.
The poster said he has been out of work for more than 12 months and jobs in the area he is qualified for are scarce (unless I misread that bit). I think that has gone past the point where it is okay to wait around - he needs to either accept he's not getting the kind of job he wants, because it doesn't exist where he is, and just get a job or he needs to relocate to where there are more jobs of the sort he wants.
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- 26/01/2010 12:41:16 PM
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Seriously, fuck him.
- 26/01/2010 12:47:05 PM
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You. Not so eloquent like the Irish princess.
- 26/01/2010 02:13:28 PM
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I don't mind being out-classed by a Celtic Goddess. 
- 26/01/2010 02:46:14 PM
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- 27/01/2010 10:03:52 PM
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- 26/01/2010 02:46:14 PM
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- 27/01/2010 10:03:52 PM
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That's just silly.
- 26/01/2010 01:05:07 PM
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Since Elaine has said it all so eloquently, I will just agree with her.
- 26/01/2010 02:12:41 PM
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Usually, I think it's stupid to turn down a job, particularly in those circumstances.
- 26/01/2010 02:21:59 PM
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I agree
- 26/01/2010 02:47:22 PM
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...and instead you would ask your friend to loan you money?
- 26/01/2010 02:53:38 PM
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No, friends and loaning money don't mix so well
- 26/01/2010 03:03:12 PM
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I seriously don't mean this to be near as nasty as it sounds...
- 26/01/2010 03:21:40 PM
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I have nothing but respect for them and their job. I am glad someone does it.
- 26/01/2010 03:35:25 PM
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I think that works in the short term but not in the long term
- 26/01/2010 03:47:52 PM
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That's why I said I didn't mean to defend him 
*NM*
- 26/01/2010 03:49:34 PM
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*NM*
- 26/01/2010 03:49:34 PM
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Well I was just making it clear that though I agreed with you, it was very time dependent *NM*
- 26/01/2010 04:26:53 PM
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*NM*
- 26/01/2010 04:26:53 PM
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your only worth what someone is willing to pay you no matter how much time you spent in school
- 26/01/2010 04:08:29 PM
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That's true
- 26/01/2010 04:28:00 PM
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so the janitor is a janitor becuase he likes cleaning up after other people?
- 26/01/2010 05:25:57 PM
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With an atitude like that
- 26/01/2010 06:24:35 PM
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As you presumably guessed already...
- 26/01/2010 06:39:54 PM
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Re: As you presumably guessed already...
- 26/01/2010 07:31:46 PM
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I think it's offensive to those EMPLOYED in those jobs.
- 26/01/2010 07:53:54 PM
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Yeah that's totally what I said *NM*
- 26/01/2010 08:05:30 PM
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To a degree, it is.
- 26/01/2010 08:21:04 PM
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They are not beneath me because of me being a better person or even smarter...
- 26/01/2010 08:33:18 PM
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Re: They are not beneath me because I am a better person or even smarter...
- 26/01/2010 08:47:27 PM
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Only if one's identity is entirely determined by the job one does.
- 26/01/2010 09:07:57 PM
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If you wouldn't do their job
- 26/01/2010 09:19:36 PM
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You seem to ignore the main point of my post entirely and just repeat what Joe said, tbh. *NM*
- 26/01/2010 10:06:11 PM
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Kinda funny, eh?
- 26/01/2010 08:07:44 PM
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Re: Kinda funny, eh?
- 27/01/2010 12:41:02 PM
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Re: Kinda funny, eh?
- 27/01/2010 12:57:48 PM
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doesn't mean you have to insult the rest of us.
- 27/01/2010 01:17:16 PM
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Re: Kinda funny, eh?
- 27/01/2010 01:20:24 PM
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Which leads back to me saying I do not support the poster's friend's attitude *NM*
- 27/01/2010 01:21:49 PM
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tell him you could give him the money but want to wait to see if a better friend shows up needing it *NM*
- 26/01/2010 02:38:08 PM
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. . .what?
- 26/01/2010 05:47:58 PM
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it was meant to be a bit of joke and make a point
- 26/01/2010 06:00:07 PM
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Absolutely not. Whatever it takes to take care of my family. *NM*
- 26/01/2010 03:14:09 PM
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This reminds me of a crazy night in Reno and a dead blackjack dealer. Remember that?
- 26/01/2010 04:17:50 PM
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Yeah, Reno's tourism industry nearly went under when they debuted their new slogan.
- 26/01/2010 04:20:01 PM
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The asking for money is where I'd have to draw the line, I guess.
- 26/01/2010 03:23:44 PM
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I think I would only not work at McDonalds. I'd even do Burger King or something, just not McDonalds *NM*
- 26/01/2010 04:27:07 PM
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Being in a non-working position...I can tell you to tell him to fuck off.
- 26/01/2010 06:35:54 PM
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