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Comet Sedai Send a noteboard - 22/01/2010 01:11:24 AM
PHILADELPHIA – A Jewish teen trying to pray on a New York-to-Kentucky flight caused a scare when he pulled out a set of small boxes containing holy scrolls, leading the captain to divert the flight to Philadelphia, where the commuter plane was greeted by police, bomb-sniffing dogs and federal agents.
The 17-year-old on US Airways Express Flight 3079 was using tefillin, a set of small boxes containing biblical passages that are attached to leather straps, said Philadelphia police Lt. Frank Vanore.
When used in prayer, one box is strapped to the arm while the other box is placed on the head.
"It's something that the average person is not going to see very often, if ever," FBI spokesman J.J. Klaver said.
The teen explained the ritual after being questioned by crew members of the flight, which had left LaGuardia Airport around 7:30 a.m. headed for Louisville and was operated by Chautauqua Airlines, authorities said.
Officials with the airline, however, said crew members "did not receive a clear response" when they talked with the teen, according to a statement issued by Republic Airways, which owns Chautauqua.
"Therefore, in the interest of everyone's safety, the crew decided to land in Philadelphia, where a more complete investigation and follow-up with authorities would be possible," the statement said.
The flight landed in Philadelphia about 9 a.m. without incident and was met by police, bomb-sniffing dogs and officials from the FBI and Transportation Security Administration.
Authorities said the plane was searched and passengers were questioned. The teen, who is from White Plains, N.Y., and was traveling with his 16-year-old sister, was very cooperative, Vanore said.
"They were more alarmed than we were," Vanore said.
Klaver said the teen and his sister were never in custody, and were cleared to continue their travels.
The teen's grandmother, who was waiting for him at Louisville International Airport, said the early flight left no time to pray before leaving New York.
"They had a morning flight. My grandson didn't have a chance to pray," Frances Winchell told WLKY-TV.
The teen, who belongs to the congregation Young Israel of White Plains, is "a brilliant student" from "the sweetest family," said Shmuel Greenberg, the synagogue's rabbi.
The morning prayer ritual is supposed to take place within a few hours of sunrise, so it's understandable that the teen was doing it on the plane, Greenberg said.
Binding the boxes of holy scrolls to the arm and head serves as "a reminder for the person that their actions during the day, and what they think about during the day, should be on a level of holiness and should inspire them to do productive, good things," he said.
The rabbi said he could see how someone unfamiliar with the tefillin could be alarmed.
"Security today is a serious issue. You can't become educated up in the air," Greenberg said. "I can definitely see a pilot or a crew that never saw it before in today's environment be very, very concerned."
Another rabbi, however, said tefillin have been used for thousands of years and he found it hard to believe no one recognized it. Benjamin Blech, an assistant professor of Talmud at Yeshiva University in New York, said he found the incident "both humorous and outlandish" and called it a "wake-up call" for religious sensitivity.
"We should be aware of ignorance just as much as we should be aware of terrorism," he said.
Concerns about passengers carrying bombs have been heightened since a Nigerian man allegedly tried to blow up a Detroit-bound Northwest Airlines flight using explosives concealed in his pants.
The Republic statement said the airline would use the event "to further strengthen our commitment to both security and customer service."
The flight was carrying 15 passengers and three crew members; travelers were rebooked on other flights, US Airways spokesman Morgan Durrant said.
So, in short:
The 17-year-old was traveling in the early morning, and probably because of the when he had to get to the airport to catch the plane couldn't say the morning prayers ahead of time. They have to be said when the sun is up, which in NY not all that early, it being the dead of winter. So, he says them the first chance he got, which was when he was in flight. He was probably rather naive, being a 17-year-old from NY--in New York, religious Jews are not so completely uncommon, as they might be to a Louisville-based crew. Naive on his part to assume no one would be alarmed. On the other hand, he was traveling with his sister, not alone, and so perhaps he imagined she'd be able to answer any questions that arose. Who knows what was asked and answered, but it would seem the two kids were more traumatized by whole affair than the crew was, which makes me think that it the crew who over-reacted and freaked out the sister and the boy himself. The whole story sounds a bit different in this light.
The 17-year-old on US Airways Express Flight 3079 was using tefillin, a set of small boxes containing biblical passages that are attached to leather straps, said Philadelphia police Lt. Frank Vanore.
When used in prayer, one box is strapped to the arm while the other box is placed on the head.
"It's something that the average person is not going to see very often, if ever," FBI spokesman J.J. Klaver said.
The teen explained the ritual after being questioned by crew members of the flight, which had left LaGuardia Airport around 7:30 a.m. headed for Louisville and was operated by Chautauqua Airlines, authorities said.
Officials with the airline, however, said crew members "did not receive a clear response" when they talked with the teen, according to a statement issued by Republic Airways, which owns Chautauqua.
"Therefore, in the interest of everyone's safety, the crew decided to land in Philadelphia, where a more complete investigation and follow-up with authorities would be possible," the statement said.
The flight landed in Philadelphia about 9 a.m. without incident and was met by police, bomb-sniffing dogs and officials from the FBI and Transportation Security Administration.
Authorities said the plane was searched and passengers were questioned. The teen, who is from White Plains, N.Y., and was traveling with his 16-year-old sister, was very cooperative, Vanore said.
"They were more alarmed than we were," Vanore said.
Klaver said the teen and his sister were never in custody, and were cleared to continue their travels.
The teen's grandmother, who was waiting for him at Louisville International Airport, said the early flight left no time to pray before leaving New York.
"They had a morning flight. My grandson didn't have a chance to pray," Frances Winchell told WLKY-TV.
The teen, who belongs to the congregation Young Israel of White Plains, is "a brilliant student" from "the sweetest family," said Shmuel Greenberg, the synagogue's rabbi.
The morning prayer ritual is supposed to take place within a few hours of sunrise, so it's understandable that the teen was doing it on the plane, Greenberg said.
Binding the boxes of holy scrolls to the arm and head serves as "a reminder for the person that their actions during the day, and what they think about during the day, should be on a level of holiness and should inspire them to do productive, good things," he said.
The rabbi said he could see how someone unfamiliar with the tefillin could be alarmed.
"Security today is a serious issue. You can't become educated up in the air," Greenberg said. "I can definitely see a pilot or a crew that never saw it before in today's environment be very, very concerned."
Another rabbi, however, said tefillin have been used for thousands of years and he found it hard to believe no one recognized it. Benjamin Blech, an assistant professor of Talmud at Yeshiva University in New York, said he found the incident "both humorous and outlandish" and called it a "wake-up call" for religious sensitivity.
"We should be aware of ignorance just as much as we should be aware of terrorism," he said.
Concerns about passengers carrying bombs have been heightened since a Nigerian man allegedly tried to blow up a Detroit-bound Northwest Airlines flight using explosives concealed in his pants.
The Republic statement said the airline would use the event "to further strengthen our commitment to both security and customer service."
The flight was carrying 15 passengers and three crew members; travelers were rebooked on other flights, US Airways spokesman Morgan Durrant said.
So, in short:
The 17-year-old was traveling in the early morning, and probably because of the when he had to get to the airport to catch the plane couldn't say the morning prayers ahead of time. They have to be said when the sun is up, which in NY not all that early, it being the dead of winter. So, he says them the first chance he got, which was when he was in flight. He was probably rather naive, being a 17-year-old from NY--in New York, religious Jews are not so completely uncommon, as they might be to a Louisville-based crew. Naive on his part to assume no one would be alarmed. On the other hand, he was traveling with his sister, not alone, and so perhaps he imagined she'd be able to answer any questions that arose. Who knows what was asked and answered, but it would seem the two kids were more traumatized by whole affair than the crew was, which makes me think that it the crew who over-reacted and freaked out the sister and the boy himself. The whole story sounds a bit different in this light.
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US Airways Philadelphia alert sparked by Jewish prayer
21/01/2010 08:58:52 PM
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Sorry, I don't consider praying on a plane acting foolishly or inappropriately.
21/01/2010 10:28:58 PM
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His being Jewish has nothing to do with it. Use some common sense - pray silently.
22/01/2010 12:32:40 AM
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or they could have looked and said "no problem just a wooden box used for prayer" and not diverted
21/01/2010 10:33:58 PM
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Fair enough, I can agree that they could have done that and should have done that.
22/01/2010 12:34:08 AM
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I feel guilty praying on planes because of attitudes like that
22/01/2010 12:24:04 AM
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Re: I feel guilty praying on planes because of attitudes like that
22/01/2010 12:37:21 AM
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People have every right to be suspicios without cause about what I SAY on a plane.
22/01/2010 01:57:24 AM
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Another take on the story...somewhat more informative
22/01/2010 01:11:24 AM
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and about the timing of the prayer...
22/01/2010 04:26:17 AM
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Allah is bigger than your "prayer time". The world won't end if you pray earlier or later.
22/01/2010 05:36:45 AM
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Re: Allah is bigger than your "prayer time". The world won't end if you pray earlier or later.
22/01/2010 05:46:44 PM
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Islam does explicitly make allowances for people who are traveling, though.
22/01/2010 01:14:17 PM
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You are just outright wrong.
22/01/2010 01:40:41 PM
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