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I presume you are equally against the current set up snoopcester Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 12:31:33 PM
You are not wrong about your distinction between civil & religious weddings. However, same-sex marriage forces others to treat unions to which they are personally opposed as legitimate. For example, nothing stops an employer from extending his health benefits to his exployees' same-sex partner if he chooses, and the free market means that employers who do such things have an advantage in trying to attract employees who would be interested (and for the Christians, the right of an employer to spend his money as he pleases in such a manner is supported by the Gospels, so this should not be an issue) in this benefit. Meanwhile those who oppose it are free to withhold such recognition and also free to accept the consequences of losing employees who dislike such a policy. The point is, everyone is free to act according to his or her beliefs. Not so if same-sex marriage is legalized. Now everyone must accept same-sex marriage under threat of force, even if it violates their conscience or religion. By trying to get legal recognition for same-sex marriage, it supporters aer the ones trying to ram THEIR ideology down everyone's throat!



After all, it is forcing the same situation you oppose on, for example, a gay employer who is against hetrosexual marriage. It is, after all, supporters of hetrosexual marriage that are currently actually the ones ramming THEIR ideology down everyone's throat!
*MySmiley*

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I may have lost a friend over same sex marriage - 17/01/2010 08:03:26 AM 1527 Views
the problem with your friend is the "southern evangelical christian" part - 17/01/2010 09:07:02 AM 840 Views
They believe gay marriage is ongoing unrepentant sin. - 17/01/2010 12:04:58 PM 834 Views
God your a moron. - 17/01/2010 09:10:17 PM 786 Views
be nice - 18/01/2010 06:26:58 AM 694 Views
<shrug> They can believe that all that they like - 18/01/2010 08:07:28 PM 740 Views
And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 18/01/2010 11:10:51 PM 754 Views
Re: And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 20/01/2010 10:40:36 PM 700 Views
It is, I believe, hardest for the intelligent educated man. - 21/01/2010 10:29:39 AM 856 Views
You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 17/01/2010 10:12:11 AM 733 Views
LOL... *NM* - 18/01/2010 05:21:14 AM 398 Views
You and Adam are being equally unconstructive. - 18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM 652 Views
why do you imply "constructive" is in anyway the intent? *NM* - 18/01/2010 06:32:27 AM 315 Views
*shrug* I never stopped believing in lost causes? - 18/01/2010 07:36:04 AM 653 Views
Re: You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 18/01/2010 06:28:41 AM 785 Views
Always welcome. - 18/01/2010 07:31:27 AM 893 Views
We finally converted you - 17/01/2010 08:43:25 PM 674 Views
Not much of a friend then. Good ridance to bad friends. *NM* - 17/01/2010 08:51:02 PM 458 Views
I agree. A friend who can't respect differences of opinion is no friend at all. *NM* - 17/01/2010 09:11:33 PM 322 Views
seriously. *NM* - 17/01/2010 10:46:17 PM 275 Views
Only because such sentiment is my pet peeve...condemning exclusivity is hypocritical. *NM* - 19/01/2010 12:37:37 AM 349 Views
yeah no kidding - 18/01/2010 06:30:45 AM 656 Views
It forces other people to accept THEIR ideology that same sex unions are legitimate. - 18/01/2010 01:49:20 AM 832 Views
I would assume, then, that you don't support any government-mandated health care? - 18/01/2010 02:07:40 AM 654 Views
Correct - 18/01/2010 04:29:04 AM 736 Views
Although I disagree with the vast majority of your arguments, - 18/01/2010 08:50:09 AM 725 Views
Thank you. - 20/01/2010 01:47:34 AM 887 Views
Please tell me you have a source for that quotation. Other than me. - 21/01/2010 12:31:27 PM 745 Views
It's GK Chesterton! What the hell are you going on about? - 27/01/2010 02:41:00 AM 623 Views
Link? - 27/01/2010 09:28:22 AM 718 Views
I can't find a link to the exact quote - 27/01/2010 12:14:19 PM 829 Views
Re: Link? - 27/01/2010 01:38:36 PM 851 Views
Perhaps we should define our terms more precisely. - 15/02/2010 11:28:09 AM 1223 Views
we do not exist in a free market. - 18/01/2010 04:09:37 AM 664 Views
And that's bad. Since when has the correct response to oppression been "accept further oppression"? *NM* - 18/01/2010 04:30:44 AM 322 Views
I am simply pointing out your arguments do not apply to the present economic environment. - 18/01/2010 04:46:04 AM 609 Views
No I am not. - 19/01/2010 10:44:31 PM 740 Views
That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:19:57 AM 689 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:41:27 AM 713 Views
civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 18/01/2010 04:49:12 AM 687 Views
Re: civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 19/01/2010 10:47:18 PM 748 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:13:54 AM 690 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 19/01/2010 10:59:45 PM 661 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:15:50 AM 798 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 20/01/2010 01:38:37 AM 583 Views
Are you at all surprised? - 18/01/2010 07:59:30 AM 679 Views
A truly free country means I don't have the freedom to shoot you - 18/01/2010 05:57:44 AM 777 Views
You really said nothing, right there. - 18/01/2010 08:34:33 AM 728 Views
I presume you are equally against the current set up - 18/01/2010 12:31:33 PM 766 Views
He said as much in his response to me above. *NM* - 18/01/2010 09:37:49 PM 262 Views
That's such an amusing argument - 18/01/2010 08:17:15 PM 647 Views
I'm against people with pasta based nicknames on fantasy forums *NM* - 19/01/2010 03:03:31 PM 283 Views
cannoli is a pastry *NM* - 19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM 257 Views
I have no problem with people with pastry based names, just pasta - 21/01/2010 12:28:44 AM 621 Views
I can't help but find it funny - 18/01/2010 12:51:57 PM 631 Views
So... - 18/01/2010 03:39:33 PM 782 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out - 18/01/2010 04:11:05 PM 653 Views
you acept your friends with their warts or you don't - 18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM 760 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out *NM* - 18/01/2010 08:01:25 PM 242 Views
I don't think it was that clear - 18/01/2010 10:01:32 PM 698 Views
I don't think it is all that clear yet, either - 18/01/2010 10:27:54 PM 716 Views
I wasn't taking sides - 18/01/2010 10:57:39 PM 594 Views

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