the problem with your friend is the "southern evangelical christian" part
moondog Send a noteboard - 17/01/2010 09:07:02 AM
She once told me that she believes I should turn to Christ if I want to save my soul, and that I wont go to heaven in her eyes even if I am a nice person because I dont except Jesus as my savior and what not.
i knew a born-again baptist (probably holding the same beliefs as your friend) who told me the exact same thing. that it doesn't matter if you live your life according to the teachings of jesus if you never accept jesus as your personal savior blah blah blah. in other words, if you don't believe in jesus, it doesn't matter if you do good in the world or not because you'll automatically go straight to hell whether you believe in the christian afterlife or not
anyway, i find it interesting that what originally started as a diversionary issue has become such a big civil rights discussion. i have to agree with some of the analysis on the supreme court decision: whether or not the supreme court strikes down the marriage bans at this stage of the game, it will be difficult to get the nation to accept the decision because there is such strong division on the issue.
i don't understand the rationale behind the opposition except that they hate homosexuality for some reason, and legitimizing it by allowing gay marriage is basically shaking their belief structure to the core. i also think that because it's such a strongly divisive issue right now, that the opposition is going to rationalize any fringe issue to deny gay marriage and make it such a scary thing to people who might be on the fence about it....
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I may have lost a friend over same sex marriage
17/01/2010 08:03:26 AM
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the problem with your friend is the "southern evangelical christian" part
17/01/2010 09:07:02 AM
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They believe gay marriage is ongoing unrepentant sin.
17/01/2010 12:04:58 PM
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God your a moron.
17/01/2010 09:10:17 PM
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That was remarkably unconstructive.
18/01/2010 12:13:45 AM
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youll have to excuse Adam, he is a Heathen, its not his fault *NM*
18/01/2010 06:26:34 AM
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Ad hominems w/o substance are never excusable, especially in one who knows beter: They're forfeits.
18/01/2010 06:39:33 AM
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<shrug> They can believe that all that they like
18/01/2010 08:07:28 PM
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And live accordingly. Just like everyone else.
18/01/2010 11:10:51 PM
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You can't use logic in an irrational argument.
17/01/2010 10:12:11 AM
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LOL... *NM*
18/01/2010 05:21:14 AM
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You and Adam are being equally unconstructive.
18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM
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First, I'm nothing at all like Adam.
18/01/2010 06:33:54 AM
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I was similarly unclear what prompted the comments, but I only needed you to elaborate a little.
18/01/2010 07:37:43 AM
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Not much of a friend then. Good ridance to bad friends. *NM*
17/01/2010 08:51:02 PM
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I agree. A friend who can't respect differences of opinion is no friend at all. *NM*
17/01/2010 09:11:33 PM
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seriously. *NM*
17/01/2010 10:46:17 PM
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Only because such sentiment is my pet peeve...condemning exclusivity is hypocritical. *NM*
19/01/2010 12:37:37 AM
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It forces other people to accept THEIR ideology that same sex unions are legitimate.
18/01/2010 01:49:20 AM
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I would assume, then, that you don't support any government-mandated health care?
18/01/2010 02:07:40 AM
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Correct
18/01/2010 04:29:04 AM
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Although I disagree with the vast majority of your arguments,
18/01/2010 08:50:09 AM
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Thank you.
20/01/2010 01:47:34 AM
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Please tell me you have a source for that quotation. Other than me.
21/01/2010 12:31:27 PM
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It's GK Chesterton! What the hell are you going on about?
27/01/2010 02:41:00 AM
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we do not exist in a free market.
18/01/2010 04:09:37 AM
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And that's bad. Since when has the correct response to oppression been "accept further oppression"? *NM*
18/01/2010 04:30:44 AM
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I am simply pointing out your arguments do not apply to the present economic environment.
18/01/2010 04:46:04 AM
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That's utter nonsense.
18/01/2010 04:19:57 AM
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Re: That's utter nonsense.
18/01/2010 04:41:27 AM
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Re: That's utter nonsense.
18/01/2010 07:15:50 AM
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Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
18/01/2010 07:49:27 AM
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I really dont like the idea of a black person marrying a white person
18/01/2010 06:36:26 AM
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That's such an amusing argument
18/01/2010 08:17:15 PM
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And you're fairly appalling in either pretending to misunderstand free markets or in your stupidity
27/01/2010 03:00:21 AM
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I'm against people with pasta based nicknames on fantasy forums *NM*
19/01/2010 03:03:31 PM
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cannoli is a pastry *NM*
19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM
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I have no problem with people with pastry based names, just pasta
21/01/2010 12:28:44 AM
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you acept your friends with their warts or you don't
18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM
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I think you missed who was the one to walk out *NM*
18/01/2010 08:01:25 PM
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I don't think it was that clear
18/01/2010 10:01:32 PM
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