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LOL, I actually am not the bane of all new ideas Isaac Send a noteboard - 10/12/2009 06:19:06 PM
Perhaps I am overly critical, but with nearly 7 billion mouths to feed and nearly three decades of living through various 'food scares' I have grown rather distressed over these matters. I actually have much respect for Salatin, and am an organic grower myself, though a notorious cheater, just harvested some last fresh brocolli from my garden even though there's snow on the ground, making a nice soup of it right now in the crockpot. I expect to harvest more from my garden this year, on account of some of those organic methods.

As with all these things, the simple answer is a diversified diet, not eating too much of one thing, not spending twice as much for a product which may even be inferior to standard agriculture. Not under producing from land that could be feeding more mouths because it appeals to people to buy food they think is somehow safer or superior when the facts simply do not support their claims. For all the ranting people engage in about our government, the FDA and USDA do a very good job protecting us from harmful products, and I think we should give them a bit of trust. In the name of glorious organic farming, I have heard people say the Haber-Bosch process itself produces fertilizer that is dangerous because it is made from ammonia, and has nitrates in it, and I have little tolerance for those who spread or even fail to confront such nonsense. And, having noted your comment about having an AG degree, I remind you that it is our job as scientists to confront such things, with zero tolerance for any exageration of the facts.

Edit: Happy Birthday, by the way ;)
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

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This message last edited by Isaac on 10/12/2009 at 06:22:22 PM
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/food: The 7 foods experts won't eat - 10/12/2009 01:04:04 AM 1013 Views
Sheesh. - 10/12/2009 01:16:03 AM 706 Views
Joel Salatin is my hero. *NM* - 10/12/2009 02:46:41 AM 461 Views
I really have to challenge many of these - 10/12/2009 03:36:05 AM 655 Views
And that is fine. Read the opening paragraph. It's not a scientific study. - 10/12/2009 02:29:53 PM 680 Views
Nevertheless... - 10/12/2009 03:14:19 PM 675 Views
Omg, you are such a party-pooper! - 10/12/2009 05:26:18 PM 602 Views
LOL, I actually am not the bane of all new ideas - 10/12/2009 06:19:06 PM 611 Views
but ag degrees and education make us biased, didn't you know that? - 10/12/2009 06:28:44 PM 622 Views
Re: but ag degrees and education make us biased, didn't you know that? - 10/12/2009 07:01:14 PM 664 Views
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T'is my civic duty - 10/12/2009 07:30:42 PM 642 Views
he's one of the mega-nerd professors who has a grudge. - 10/12/2009 07:41:19 PM 572 Views
Probably not even a trekkie either - 10/12/2009 07:53:17 PM 559 Views
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You don't eat apples? - 10/12/2009 05:13:56 AM 657 Views
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Probably. I guess I've just been unlucky. *NM* - 10/12/2009 01:31:15 PM 336 Views
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See what I said to Isaac. - 10/12/2009 02:33:24 PM 637 Views
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