Active Users:463 Time:26/11/2024 06:40:52 AM
Nevertheless, uniforms or a nation is not a requirement Isaac Send a noteboard - 23/11/2009 03:09:22 PM
Tripoli or Somalia, or even our own coastal waters, the Navy in particular has a long tradition of teaching pirates how to dance in the air. The rules are a bit different these days, but the military tribunals are not kangaroo courts or star chambers, and have never been limited to trying soldiers of nations we're at war with. Those pirates were never official members of some other country's navy. Indeed, all those treaties we have like the Geneva Convention are designed to give special protection to enemy military personnel, not the other way around. Enemy militaries are assumed to be composed of decent men and women operating under strict rules and guidelines themselves, and thus our treaties are designed to hold them accountable only for violations of those treaties. An enemy soldier can be captured after shooting up dozens of our troops and expect three square meals a day and release after the conclusion of hostilities, because they followed the rules. The ones who break those rules can subject to summary execution, like spies. These various terrorists and insurgents don't follow those rules, and you want to give them access to our court system?

When we are talking about foriegners captured in foriegn lands by military forces, it is a clear case for military tribunals not civilian courts, the exact terminology decribing the person - enemy soldier, terrorist, enemy combatant, insurgent - are just word games and we all know it.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
This message last edited by Isaac on 23/11/2009 at 03:19:22 PM
Reply to message
No need to interrogate Osama bin Laden? - 20/11/2009 12:48:27 AM 1064 Views
oO uhm, what? - 20/11/2009 12:54:13 AM 546 Views
Yeah, a lot of people were fuzzy on that till this started. - 20/11/2009 09:30:39 AM 573 Views
on the other hand, we're more than willing to take them out back with a confession. - 20/11/2009 06:34:12 PM 570 Views
As it seems we will. - 24/11/2009 09:41:18 AM 549 Views
New York is now asking for $75 MILLION for the KSM trial - 20/11/2009 01:43:26 AM 498 Views
Its to salve their conscinse - 20/11/2009 01:55:08 AM 502 Views
That's exactly the problem! - 20/11/2009 01:58:37 AM 519 Views
If this trial were being held in any other country - 20/11/2009 01:56:07 AM 522 Views
It's a terrible precedent no matter how you look at it. - 20/11/2009 02:13:46 AM 546 Views
It IS a terrible precdent, hence you and others are citing it 65 years after WWII ended. - 20/11/2009 09:23:45 AM 436 Views
Spare me the bullshit. - 20/11/2009 01:57:16 PM 440 Views
I will if you will. - 20/11/2009 02:55:30 PM 537 Views
No, you won't. You never will. - 20/11/2009 06:14:30 PM 427 Views
You're putting your cart before your horse is the problem. - 23/11/2009 05:40:46 AM 519 Views
No, that's not right. You don't read very closely. - 23/11/2009 02:21:54 PM 441 Views
In this case my reading comprehension is more than adequate. - 24/11/2009 09:16:39 AM 483 Views
You don't think this is a military struggle? Wow. - 20/11/2009 02:52:26 PM 479 Views
Allow me to point out... - 20/11/2009 03:02:33 PM 456 Views
Well, Timothy McVeigh was in OUR Army. - 20/11/2009 03:55:18 PM 579 Views
That's the thing, they aren't a terrorist group - 20/11/2009 04:54:31 PM 500 Views
It would help if you would offer any argument in favour of your stance. - 20/11/2009 08:43:08 PM 444 Views
I only use the word army cause I can't think of a better one - 21/11/2009 04:32:01 AM 459 Views
Yes. "Terrorist group". - 21/11/2009 12:02:04 PM 533 Views
Yeah I guess you're right - 22/11/2009 01:34:34 AM 447 Views
Military struggles involve militaries. - 20/11/2009 03:23:14 PM 621 Views
Once again, bullshit. - 20/11/2009 06:09:31 PM 585 Views
Aaaah, I see; it's a question of who's the master, is it? - 23/11/2009 07:47:43 AM 598 Views
You're wasting your time - 23/11/2009 02:24:57 PM 483 Views
This is wrong - 20/11/2009 07:41:35 PM 487 Views
We're a long way from the shore of Tripoli. - 23/11/2009 05:59:19 AM 539 Views
Nevertheless, uniforms or a nation is not a requirement - 23/11/2009 03:09:22 PM 497 Views
Rightly or wrongly, I disagree. - 24/11/2009 08:48:25 AM 541 Views
That is bad - 21/11/2009 12:31:04 AM 472 Views
You're not going far enough, man. - 20/11/2009 11:03:08 AM 524 Views
Blah blah blah blah blah *NM* - 20/11/2009 01:57:39 PM 224 Views
I just can't imagine how they expect to get a fair trial. - 20/11/2009 03:17:28 AM 442 Views
The Code of Conduct - 20/11/2009 07:23:02 PM 549 Views
The mention of God is interesting. *NM* - 21/11/2009 05:24:14 AM 335 Views
Your little diatribe in the beginning only makes me glad... - 22/11/2009 05:32:57 AM 606 Views
I understand your "jihadist narrative" - 22/11/2009 06:36:41 PM 585 Views
enemy combatants and terrorists - 23/11/2009 08:03:25 PM 562 Views
They're not different because from the Third World, but because terrorists. - 24/11/2009 08:09:13 AM 676 Views
not every soldier in history has worn a uniform - 24/11/2009 11:00:34 PM 354 Views
One example would be Ethan Allen and his Green Mountain Boys - 25/11/2009 06:23:08 PM 529 Views
Just for fun, let's call them fundamentalist vigilantes. *NM* - 24/11/2009 11:12:09 PM 196 Views
Works for me. - 01/12/2009 09:12:29 AM 509 Views

Reply to Message