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No, that's not right. You don't read very closely. Tom Send a noteboard - 23/11/2009 02:21:54 PM
I'm arguing against expensive, media circus, drawn out trials in the United States where criminal procedure violations can lead to sentences being overturned. Our soldiers did not use those procedures and evidence was collected in ways that domestic courts would not recognize, but military courts would.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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No need to interrogate Osama bin Laden? beckstcw - 20/11/2009 12:48:27 AM 1062 Views
oO uhm, what? LadyLorraine - 20/11/2009 12:54:13 AM 545 Views
If they're tried INSIDE the US, then yes, they are entitled to due process. Tom - 20/11/2009 01:44:08 AM 458 Views
Yeah, a lot of people were fuzzy on that till this started. The Name With No Man - 20/11/2009 09:30:39 AM 571 Views
on the other hand, we're more than willing to take them out back with a confession. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2009 06:34:12 PM 567 Views
As it seems we will. The Name With No Man - 24/11/2009 09:41:18 AM 543 Views
New York is now asking for $75 MILLION for the KSM trial Tom - 20/11/2009 01:43:26 AM 495 Views
Its to salve their conscinse Ryan - 20/11/2009 01:55:08 AM 499 Views
That's exactly the problem! beckstcw - 20/11/2009 01:58:37 AM 516 Views
If this trial were being held in any other country beckstcw - 20/11/2009 01:56:07 AM 518 Views
It's a terrible precedent no matter how you look at it. Tom - 20/11/2009 02:13:46 AM 542 Views
It IS a terrible precdent, hence you and others are citing it 65 years after WWII ended. Joel - 20/11/2009 09:23:45 AM 433 Views
Spare me the bullshit. Tom - 20/11/2009 01:57:16 PM 438 Views
I will if you will. Joel - 20/11/2009 02:55:30 PM 534 Views
No, you won't. You never will. Tom - 20/11/2009 06:14:30 PM 425 Views
You're putting your cart before your horse is the problem. Joel - 23/11/2009 05:40:46 AM 516 Views
No, that's not right. You don't read very closely. Tom - 23/11/2009 02:21:54 PM 438 Views
In this case my reading comprehension is more than adequate. Joel - 24/11/2009 09:16:39 AM 479 Views
You don't think this is a military struggle? Wow. beckstcw - 20/11/2009 02:52:26 PM 476 Views
Allow me to point out... Legolas - 20/11/2009 03:02:33 PM 454 Views
Well, Timothy McVeigh was in OUR Army. The Name With No Man - 20/11/2009 03:55:18 PM 578 Views
That's the thing, they aren't a terrorist group beckstcw - 20/11/2009 04:54:31 PM 497 Views
It would help if you would offer any argument in favour of your stance. Legolas - 20/11/2009 08:43:08 PM 440 Views
I only use the word army cause I can't think of a better one beckstcw - 21/11/2009 04:32:01 AM 456 Views
Yes. "Terrorist group". Legolas - 21/11/2009 12:02:04 PM 530 Views
Yeah I guess you're right beckstcw - 22/11/2009 01:34:34 AM 444 Views
Military struggles involve militaries. Joel - 20/11/2009 03:23:14 PM 618 Views
Once again, bullshit. Tom - 20/11/2009 06:09:31 PM 580 Views
Aaaah, I see; it's a question of who's the master, is it? Joel - 23/11/2009 07:47:43 AM 595 Views
You're wasting your time Tom - 23/11/2009 02:24:57 PM 479 Views
This is wrong Isaac - 20/11/2009 07:41:35 PM 484 Views
We're a long way from the shore of Tripoli. Joel - 23/11/2009 05:59:19 AM 536 Views
Nevertheless, uniforms or a nation is not a requirement Isaac - 23/11/2009 03:09:22 PM 495 Views
Rightly or wrongly, I disagree. Joel - 24/11/2009 08:48:25 AM 538 Views
That is bad AgentOrange - 21/11/2009 12:31:04 AM 468 Views
You're not going far enough, man. Joel - 20/11/2009 11:03:08 AM 522 Views
Blah blah blah blah blah *NM* Tom - 20/11/2009 01:57:39 PM 223 Views
I just can't imagine how they expect to get a fair trial. Gher - 20/11/2009 03:17:28 AM 440 Views
The Code of Conduct Isaac - 20/11/2009 07:23:02 PM 545 Views
The mention of God is interesting. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/11/2009 05:24:14 AM 334 Views
Your little diatribe in the beginning only makes me glad... Libby - 22/11/2009 05:32:57 AM 604 Views
I understand your "jihadist narrative" beckstcw - 22/11/2009 06:36:41 PM 583 Views
No you don't Libby - 22/11/2009 11:16:18 PM 520 Views
Oh, so you know better than Army attorneys about Miranda rights? Tom - 22/11/2009 11:52:00 PM 561 Views
I find no mention of Miranda in that article. Joel - 23/11/2009 08:13:05 AM 538 Views
I can explain it to you right now if you want? Libby - 23/11/2009 08:21:48 AM 453 Views
Credible legal and moral justifications for not trying terrorists in civilian court: Tom - 23/11/2009 02:56:19 PM 526 Views
Re: Credible legal and moral justifications for not trying terrorists in civilian court: Libby - 24/11/2009 04:55:12 AM 661 Views
I'm glad that you will never be in a position where a decision you make can affect my life. beckstcw - 23/11/2009 12:27:35 AM 422 Views
Actually people of my thinking are already making decisions that affect your life. Libby - 23/11/2009 08:29:24 AM 558 Views
Please explain to me how military tribunals compromise my principles? beckstcw - 24/11/2009 02:54:18 AM 419 Views
And your little hyperbolic rant would make more sense if it were grounded in reality. Tom - 22/11/2009 11:47:17 PM 450 Views
Looks like we'll get a Not Guilty plea, and a defense focusing on condeming US foreign policy beckstcw - 23/11/2009 12:36:47 AM 676 Views
They'll publicly accuse us of tyranny and brutality in front of a jury and without our censorship. Joel - 23/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 578 Views
My main objection is the awful precedent set by trying prisoners of war here in America. beckstcw - 24/11/2009 02:57:13 AM 500 Views
"My main objection is the awful precedent set by trying prisoners of war here in America. " Joel - 24/11/2009 06:57:34 AM 500 Views
We've had Mohammed in custody for over 6 years... Libby - 23/11/2009 07:56:49 AM 523 Views
I've already responded to your absurd statements, but let me reiterate a few here Tom - 23/11/2009 02:59:09 PM 419 Views
And I've responded to yours Libby - 24/11/2009 04:57:58 AM 496 Views
It's not, at least for me, that we feel the civilian courts are inadequate beckstcw - 24/11/2009 05:28:51 AM 476 Views
Good analysis of the situation. Joel - 23/11/2009 08:17:01 AM 591 Views
It isn't about sending a message. It's about horrible war fighting strategy. beckstcw - 24/11/2009 02:59:31 AM 543 Views
No. It's about not using a horribly ineffective strategy just to send a message to terrorists. Joel - 24/11/2009 09:29:06 AM 463 Views
enemy combatants and terrorists imlad - 23/11/2009 08:03:25 PM 559 Views
They're not different because from the Third World, but because terrorists. Joel - 24/11/2009 08:09:13 AM 674 Views
not every soldier in history has worn a uniform imlad - 24/11/2009 11:00:34 PM 351 Views
One example would be Ethan Allen and his Green Mountain Boys imlad - 25/11/2009 06:23:08 PM 526 Views
Just for fun, let's call them fundamentalist vigilantes. *NM* Vodalus - 24/11/2009 11:12:09 PM 194 Views
Works for me. Joel - 01/12/2009 09:12:29 AM 506 Views
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