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I can explain it to you right now if you want? Libby Send a noteboard - 23/11/2009 08:21:48 AM
The Bush administration tried Reid, Padilla, and Moussaoui, who was charged in the same conspiracy as KSM, in a civilian court and they are now rotting behind bars for the rest of their lives. The fact of the matter is, not one of you can provide any credible legal or moral justification for not trying terrorists in civilian court.

If Lindsey Graham, a former Army legal prosecutor, is worried about Miranda rights, then I'd say it's much more likely that you're the one who doesn't understand their application. Where did you go to law school, by the way?


Graham's Miranda question was specious. Of course soldiers in the field wouldn't read rights upon apprehension - that's not their jurisdiction. A distinction is made between detention and custody - once a suspect is turned over to the civilian law enforcement system, preferably not after languishing in a detention center for eight years because the administration in office can't close the deal on a conviction, he may be apprised of his Miranda rights.

But Miranda only applies to custodial interrogations anyway. Now let's use Osama Bin Ladin as an example. There is plenty of evidence already in U.S. possession to convict Osama bin Laden even without interrogating him. Though the CIA would probably interrogate him for intelligence purposes it's doubtful the FBI would even bother.
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No need to interrogate Osama bin Laden? - 20/11/2009 12:48:27 AM 1130 Views
oO uhm, what? - 20/11/2009 12:54:13 AM 614 Views
Yeah, a lot of people were fuzzy on that till this started. - 20/11/2009 09:30:39 AM 635 Views
on the other hand, we're more than willing to take them out back with a confession. - 20/11/2009 06:34:12 PM 637 Views
As it seems we will. - 24/11/2009 09:41:18 AM 611 Views
New York is now asking for $75 MILLION for the KSM trial - 20/11/2009 01:43:26 AM 568 Views
Its to salve their conscinse - 20/11/2009 01:55:08 AM 574 Views
That's exactly the problem! - 20/11/2009 01:58:37 AM 586 Views
If this trial were being held in any other country - 20/11/2009 01:56:07 AM 583 Views
It's a terrible precedent no matter how you look at it. - 20/11/2009 02:13:46 AM 609 Views
It IS a terrible precdent, hence you and others are citing it 65 years after WWII ended. - 20/11/2009 09:23:45 AM 500 Views
Spare me the bullshit. - 20/11/2009 01:57:16 PM 500 Views
I will if you will. - 20/11/2009 02:55:30 PM 601 Views
No, you won't. You never will. - 20/11/2009 06:14:30 PM 493 Views
You're putting your cart before your horse is the problem. - 23/11/2009 05:40:46 AM 583 Views
No, that's not right. You don't read very closely. - 23/11/2009 02:21:54 PM 504 Views
In this case my reading comprehension is more than adequate. - 24/11/2009 09:16:39 AM 540 Views
You don't think this is a military struggle? Wow. - 20/11/2009 02:52:26 PM 546 Views
Allow me to point out... - 20/11/2009 03:02:33 PM 530 Views
Well, Timothy McVeigh was in OUR Army. - 20/11/2009 03:55:18 PM 646 Views
That's the thing, they aren't a terrorist group - 20/11/2009 04:54:31 PM 572 Views
It would help if you would offer any argument in favour of your stance. - 20/11/2009 08:43:08 PM 513 Views
I only use the word army cause I can't think of a better one - 21/11/2009 04:32:01 AM 530 Views
Yes. "Terrorist group". - 21/11/2009 12:02:04 PM 599 Views
Yeah I guess you're right - 22/11/2009 01:34:34 AM 517 Views
Military struggles involve militaries. - 20/11/2009 03:23:14 PM 686 Views
Once again, bullshit. - 20/11/2009 06:09:31 PM 651 Views
Aaaah, I see; it's a question of who's the master, is it? - 23/11/2009 07:47:43 AM 669 Views
You're wasting your time - 23/11/2009 02:24:57 PM 546 Views
This is wrong - 20/11/2009 07:41:35 PM 550 Views
We're a long way from the shore of Tripoli. - 23/11/2009 05:59:19 AM 601 Views
Nevertheless, uniforms or a nation is not a requirement - 23/11/2009 03:09:22 PM 560 Views
Rightly or wrongly, I disagree. - 24/11/2009 08:48:25 AM 607 Views
That is bad - 21/11/2009 12:31:04 AM 542 Views
You're not going far enough, man. - 20/11/2009 11:03:08 AM 582 Views
Blah blah blah blah blah *NM* - 20/11/2009 01:57:39 PM 248 Views
I just can't imagine how they expect to get a fair trial. - 20/11/2009 03:17:28 AM 513 Views
The Code of Conduct - 20/11/2009 07:23:02 PM 624 Views
The mention of God is interesting. *NM* - 21/11/2009 05:24:14 AM 358 Views
Your little diatribe in the beginning only makes me glad... - 22/11/2009 05:32:57 AM 666 Views
I understand your "jihadist narrative" - 22/11/2009 06:36:41 PM 652 Views
No you don't - 22/11/2009 11:16:18 PM 588 Views
Oh, so you know better than Army attorneys about Miranda rights? - 22/11/2009 11:52:00 PM 625 Views
I find no mention of Miranda in that article. - 23/11/2009 08:13:05 AM 633 Views
I can explain it to you right now if you want? - 23/11/2009 08:21:48 AM 547 Views
enemy combatants and terrorists - 23/11/2009 08:03:25 PM 621 Views
They're not different because from the Third World, but because terrorists. - 24/11/2009 08:09:13 AM 746 Views
not every soldier in history has worn a uniform - 24/11/2009 11:00:34 PM 415 Views
One example would be Ethan Allen and his Green Mountain Boys - 25/11/2009 06:23:08 PM 590 Views
Just for fun, let's call them fundamentalist vigilantes. *NM* - 24/11/2009 11:12:09 PM 220 Views
Works for me. - 01/12/2009 09:12:29 AM 579 Views

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