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Couldnt it be respect as a sign of acceptance? Sophy Send a noteboard - 17/11/2009 04:38:02 PM
it has nothing to do with class, but everything to do with signs of respect.


Respect for what? Why should I respect an unelected head of state whose ancestors were violent enough to keep hold of power? What has the unelected head of state ever done to deserve a bow? And we are talking about unelected heads of state in this post.

Not to your friends.

If the other person is bowing also, at the exact same angle, then I can see it as a greeting. Like a handshake. But ultimately a bow's origin is about respect for a hierarchical position. Sorry, not buying into that. Don't consider it about respect either. I consider it a holdover from more barbaric time periods.


And it doesnt mean that you see that person as more highranked than yourself. Too be honest I look down on quite a lot of the people I curtsey to, but still, if I dont take the first step to be polite to them I lower myself to their level. Which is a very funny reason to show respect, I admit. Still everyone deserves respect until they activly proved themselves unworthy.
Sophy
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Why is the bowing a big deal? Camilla - 17/11/2009 11:57:29 AM 970 Views
Again? snoopcester - 17/11/2009 12:07:09 PM 427 Views
Indeed. They should be worried about idiot politicos who call the Queen "vermin" Rebekah - 17/11/2009 01:16:22 PM 453 Views
Wow, that was a really stupid thing to do by him snoopcester - 17/11/2009 01:29:51 PM 412 Views
Funny how one can campaign for an election victory for months, or years... Legolas - 17/11/2009 02:03:10 PM 377 Views
Well, she ain't no human being Tom - 17/11/2009 02:15:26 PM 400 Views
*NM* snoopcester - 17/11/2009 02:55:22 PM 166 Views
This time it is because he did it AGAIN. MightyYT - 17/11/2009 01:23:56 PM 468 Views
~dies laughing~ Elaine - 17/11/2009 01:37:44 PM 521 Views
ironclad - 17/11/2009 01:53:48 PM 349 Views
I don't recall either the Saudi king or Japanese emperor bowing AT ALL. Tom - 17/11/2009 02:13:31 PM 528 Views
Ah. Elaine - 17/11/2009 02:18:40 PM 397 Views
Neither did bow MightyYT - 17/11/2009 06:17:54 PM 368 Views
Right. Elaine - 18/11/2009 12:46:35 PM 367 Views
Personally, I would never bow to the Emperor of Japan or the Queen of England. They shit The Shrike - 17/11/2009 02:03:14 PM 569 Views
The Japanese emperor in particular should be bowing to us. Tom - 17/11/2009 02:14:33 PM 434 Views
There's nothing wrong with bowing! Sophy - 17/11/2009 02:27:34 PM 391 Views
I bow to people all the time Camilla - 17/11/2009 02:41:36 PM 411 Views
That is your prerogative that you feel the need to bow as a sign of "respect". The Shrike - 17/11/2009 03:21:53 PM 402 Views
For me snoopcester - 17/11/2009 03:39:47 PM 391 Views
While I understand your perspective, The Shrike - 17/11/2009 04:24:36 PM 545 Views
Couldnt it be respect as a sign of acceptance? Sophy - 17/11/2009 04:38:02 PM 472 Views
Hmmm. Possibly. The Shrike - 17/11/2009 05:31:45 PM 392 Views
Ah, I see. Sophy - 17/11/2009 06:12:10 PM 388 Views
Are you saying Camilla - 18/11/2009 09:49:25 AM 378 Views
Long live respectfull behaviour! Sophy - 17/11/2009 02:28:47 PM 391 Views
Indeed. *NM* Camilla - 17/11/2009 02:41:59 PM 206 Views
This has nothing to do with respectful Cannoli - 18/11/2009 04:00:07 AM 371 Views
Some of us voted for someone your size. Mats Gambling Buddy - 17/11/2009 04:39:30 PM 399 Views
yah, but he came with a lunatic. *NM* LadyLorraine - 17/11/2009 05:02:11 PM 175 Views
The person her size managed to win in France Floffe - 17/11/2009 08:27:32 PM 453 Views
Okay, that's great. *NM* Legolas - 17/11/2009 10:09:18 PM 181 Views
Elaine - 18/11/2009 01:30:21 PM 444 Views
if it is a sign of repect why did the emperor not return the bow? random thoughts - 17/11/2009 06:27:56 PM 381 Views
Well, appearantly the emperor didnt have as good manners. Sophy - 17/11/2009 06:31:25 PM 370 Views
The Emperor shook Obama's hand. That's a sign of respect in our culture. Tim - 17/11/2009 06:57:16 PM 399 Views
Your reply shows some ignorance of Japanese protocol between the Emperor and foreigners. The Shrike - 18/11/2009 12:53:55 AM 412 Views
If the protocol is "thou shalt not bow to the Emperor, foreign dude" Rebekah - 18/11/2009 11:39:31 AM 401 Views
Hey, it was Tim's argument that the people of Japan would be upset and that one must bow The Shrike - 18/11/2009 01:22:02 PM 433 Views
I think you're overstating the meaning of a bow. Rebekah - 18/11/2009 02:37:22 PM 414 Views
And I think you're defending the undefendable. The Shrike - 18/11/2009 02:55:15 PM 434 Views
Re: And I think you're defending the undefendable. Rebekah - 18/11/2009 03:12:08 PM 370 Views
Look, Tim gave some justification other than respect. He was disproven. End. The Shrike - 18/11/2009 03:40:34 PM 349 Views
I dunno nossy - 17/11/2009 06:47:48 PM 365 Views
On the flip side, Jacob - 17/11/2009 08:50:57 PM 364 Views
If I understand you nossy - 17/11/2009 09:01:38 PM 393 Views
How tall is Obama? *NM* Joker - 17/11/2009 10:02:46 PM 247 Views
Too tall? *NM* Camilla - 17/11/2009 10:19:06 PM 175 Views
By at least a head. *NM* Cannoli - 18/11/2009 04:00:46 AM 214 Views
He's 6'1", 187 cm *NM* Isaac - 18/11/2009 04:17:06 AM 184 Views
That's freakishly tall? I'm 6'1. It's tall, but not REALLY tall. I was expecting 6'5 or something. *NM* Joker - 19/11/2009 10:28:01 PM 192 Views
It's probably freakishly tall when you're half a person like Camilla. *NM* Rebekah - 19/11/2009 10:29:02 PM 152 Views
i hate the thought of bowing to any human Aisha - 18/11/2009 12:59:24 AM 378 Views
6'1" is freakishly tall?? Brian - 18/11/2009 05:22:12 AM 370 Views
Very much so. *NM* Camilla - 18/11/2009 09:18:43 AM 180 Views
LOL Isaac - 18/11/2009 09:23:56 AM 349 Views
I think the whole fuss about the level of respect for the President is strange, considering snoopcester - 18/11/2009 11:58:42 AM 414 Views
This is a very good point. The Shrike - 18/11/2009 01:25:25 PM 459 Views
Ah, I was assuming it was picked up by the UK media after a fuss in the US. *NM* snoopcester - 18/11/2009 02:54:38 PM 158 Views
Conservative blogosphere, supposedly, but then what *don't* they whine about... *NM* Legolas - 18/11/2009 02:58:14 PM 154 Views
Liberals are not happy with it either. The Shrike - 18/11/2009 03:44:01 PM 442 Views
well, on some issues, he has to contend with the very fractured democratic caucus in both houses imlad - 19/11/2009 08:02:44 PM 358 Views
Well. That is true. Rebekah - 18/11/2009 02:54:40 PM 376 Views
It's not. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 18/11/2009 03:06:45 PM 154 Views
because the conservatives have to find something to bitch about imlad - 19/11/2009 01:33:54 AM 339 Views
Man, I was all excited. I thought this was going to be about the cello. *NM* Cockatiel of Doom - 20/11/2009 12:52:11 AM 195 Views
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