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I know what you're trying to say, and I believe you. Avendesora Send a noteboard - 10/11/2009 02:54:09 AM
Especially about "organic" food in general- . If we as a population have to eat, then food has to be mass-produced. If the price of a food goes up a dime on the dollar people flip out. You get what you pay for, and we as a nation are a bunch of cheapskates. You reap what you sow, I guess.

However.. ;)

more than one chicken per square foot is overcrowded. Not as bad as some of the other horror stories you hear, but crowded just the same. They could do with a touch more space.

Broiler hens are not subjected to as terrible conditions as laying hens, but yuck.

also, their feed- while nutritionally sound, isn't what they would normaly be eating, "organic" or not.

I'm getting chickens in the spring, for eggs.

I have the luxury of ordering local sides of beef, pork, buffalo, and I am getting a free range turkey for thankgiving.

It's not just luck that I live this way. I wouldn't have it any other way.
*MySmiley*

I believe all news and research that supports my opinion, and dismiss the rest as conspiracy and lies.
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On "Chicken Crowding" LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 06:09:38 PM 903 Views
um nossy - 09/11/2009 06:16:06 PM 680 Views
mk, some clarification LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 06:33:17 PM 607 Views
you obviously have not seen the documentary "Food Inc" , please watch it *NM* Aisha - 09/11/2009 08:09:28 PM 333 Views
I seem to be in the middle of you two nossy - 09/11/2009 08:16:26 PM 611 Views
Yes, because those are never false LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 10:54:57 PM 597 Views
Citing movie documentaries as necessary "reading" material... Raserei - 10/11/2009 06:34:10 AM 494 Views
Raserei! *NM* Ghavrel - 10/11/2009 08:44:39 AM 261 Views
Bonjour. *NM* Raserei - 10/11/2009 09:43:06 PM 254 Views
Just saw that last night. Mad Cow Bomber - 10/11/2009 11:11:30 AM 609 Views
This might help snoopcester - 10/11/2009 11:13:17 AM 538 Views
even just reading the fact check (what I did), that's pretty awful. nossy - 10/11/2009 03:07:39 PM 542 Views
This might help snoopcester - 10/11/2009 11:13:18 AM 516 Views
Yea, but.. the smell. Kel - 09/11/2009 08:19:54 PM 594 Views
Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:10:57 AM 504 Views
Strongly? Kel - 10/11/2009 03:17:40 AM 497 Views
Chicken = yummy. *NM* Tigr - 09/11/2009 08:33:01 PM 379 Views
Ya know... MightyYT - 09/11/2009 08:49:32 PM 523 Views
that's half the reason i get so up in arms for the industry LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 10:57:05 PM 595 Views
Not all vegetarians are militant, ya know. Cockatiel of Doom - 10/11/2009 10:30:58 PM 610 Views
Which is great if you can only think in binary snoopcester - 09/11/2009 10:59:29 PM 482 Views
free range has a lot of issues people don't know about LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:15:10 PM 554 Views
Indeed, it isn't perfect. snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:31:36 PM 493 Views
i would pick the regulated one. LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:32:50 PM 497 Views
Well that is a clear issue snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:44:07 PM 472 Views
ah well good for the UK then LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:46:29 PM 501 Views
To correct myself, it is actually an EU standard snoopcester - 10/11/2009 11:56:38 AM 593 Views
yeah Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:16:19 AM 605 Views
the pain problem with the diesase management LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 02:21:31 AM 476 Views
I suggest you shut the flock up. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:30:28 AM 654 Views
you are horrible LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 02:37:15 AM 598 Views
flock-to-flock contamination is quite a problem if you're trying to not feed the birds antibiotics. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:59:10 AM 548 Views
Free range gays? Raserei - 10/11/2009 06:35:39 AM 449 Views
well theoretically LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 01:02:16 PM 441 Views
Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:31:58 PM 415 Views
Ummm... Danu - 10/11/2009 08:05:20 PM 549 Views
they're scattered here and there LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 08:22:31 PM 420 Views
I didn't find any posts that damning or anything. everynametaken - 11/11/2009 03:25:07 AM 522 Views
the only other one I've seen was by Nate snoopcester - 11/11/2009 10:58:21 AM 484 Views
Some questions and comments: Danu - 09/11/2009 09:37:56 PM 616 Views
Re: Some questions and comments: snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:07:32 PM 542 Views
Re: Some questions and comments: LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:19:07 PM 559 Views
Dear meathead snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:33:36 PM 560 Views
i was not referring specifically to you. LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:35:01 PM 451 Views
Fair enough, I didn't realise you were making unrelated comments for no clear reason snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:42:59 PM 454 Views
it was related to what you were saying about standards LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:44:27 PM 434 Views
No, it was not related to what I was saying about chicken raising standards snoopcester - 10/11/2009 10:55:18 AM 445 Views
LOL, sorry sis, but the meathead thing was cute. Methinks I have a new nickname for my favoritest. StarrBecca - 10/11/2009 12:43:08 AM 522 Views
great LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 12:46:28 AM 419 Views
*sigh* LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:14:27 PM 582 Views
You should use the quote box thingy on the far right of the Smiley Codes, it would make it easier Danu - 10/11/2009 01:01:02 AM 510 Views
ah, thank you for pointing that box out, i hadn't seen it. LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 01:30:50 AM 604 Views
right on. temeraire - 10/11/2009 05:20:48 PM 451 Views
we modified every domestic animal we have random thoughts - 10/11/2009 05:36:37 PM 415 Views
especially chickens. Chickens haven't even really ever lived in the wild... LaSombra - 15/11/2009 05:25:20 PM 513 Views
I know what you're trying to say, and I believe you. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:54:09 AM 540 Views
most domesticated animals don't eat what they'd "naturally" eat LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 01:10:36 PM 480 Views
true. But I think at this point we are getting away from commercially raised and more towards pets. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:29:01 PM 558 Views
A full-grown chicken needs 4sq ft coop and 10 sq ft outside space... LaSombra - 15/11/2009 12:51:00 AM 480 Views
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