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So it's inherently worse for a gay man to get beaten up than a straight guy? beckstcw Send a noteboard - 24/10/2009 03:45:43 AM
If I overreacted and beat up another straight guy for hitting on my sister, that's more acceptable than if I overreacted and beat up a gay guy for hitting on my brother?

Seems like I as a straight person am being discriminated against, being told that my well-being is worth less. Same goes for all hate-crime legislation.
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Matthew Shepard act passed Dominic - 23/10/2009 07:54:07 PM 781 Views
Meh Brian - 23/10/2009 08:06:22 PM 372 Views
Federal punishment is usually harsher then state law Ryan - 23/10/2009 09:27:49 PM 357 Views
I honestly don't care that federal law is more harsh Brian - 24/10/2009 01:04:16 AM 346 Views
68-29, eh? Party line division? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 23/10/2009 08:25:07 PM 137 Views
More or less Isaac - 23/10/2009 08:35:10 PM 355 Views
All hate crime legislation is stupid..... trzaska2000 - 23/10/2009 10:15:02 PM 372 Views
I'm sure Orwell would be intrigued by his own prognosticative abilities. LiterateDog - 24/10/2009 12:52:24 AM 381 Views
Didn't we already slice crimes by degree of intention (e.g., murder vs. manslaughter) pre-Orwell? Burr - 24/10/2009 05:23:56 AM 358 Views
Not sure I agree there Isaac - 24/10/2009 02:29:13 PM 329 Views
How about DADT, or employment non discrimination, or federal benefits for civil unions/marriages? Roland00 - 24/10/2009 01:23:06 AM 362 Views
See..this is much more important than Hate Crime Legislation, and it actually accomplishes something *NM* Brian - 24/10/2009 01:52:31 AM 129 Views
Agreed, but Roland00 - 24/10/2009 02:12:11 AM 331 Views
I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 02:22:46 AM 341 Views
I'm sure the law is not supposed to deter crime, but rather to ensure justice. Burr - 24/10/2009 03:49:58 AM 296 Views
Which is one of the failures of the American Justice system Brian - 24/10/2009 04:53:33 AM 321 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:07:52 AM 393 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 04:51:43 AM 358 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 05:02:27 AM 338 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 05:27:35 AM 328 Views
So it's inherently worse for a gay man to get beaten up than a straight guy? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 03:45:43 AM 316 Views
Doesn't there have to be an indication ... Nate - 24/10/2009 04:33:49 AM 336 Views
Doesn't matter, Same crime, same punishment, with no extra preference given to anyone. beckstcw - 24/10/2009 04:48:22 AM 324 Views
It does matter to what you were saying, though. Nate - 24/10/2009 06:32:32 AM 390 Views
One factor in this I don't like though Isaac - 24/10/2009 01:54:53 PM 326 Views
Correct Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:55:43 AM 332 Views
All orientations are protected. yew - 24/10/2009 05:17:55 AM 333 Views
Isn't killing or assaulting someone already illegal? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 05:50:15 AM 331 Views
As per my reply to you above: Nate - 24/10/2009 06:42:24 AM 348 Views
I said nothing as to what I think about hate crimes laws. yew - 24/10/2009 06:47:51 AM 338 Views
yes and how many black men are sentenced for attacking white men? random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:00:26 PM 307 Views
Couldn't say, Ray. yew - 25/10/2009 04:43:12 AM 469 Views
I don't support that anymore then I support hate crime laws. random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:33:27 PM 348 Views
they need to throw out all of the thought crime laws *NM* random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:04:30 PM 122 Views
Minor point. Palatine - 24/10/2009 04:46:25 PM 355 Views
Yeah I saw that and kind of scoffed as well Brian - 24/10/2009 07:57:23 PM 353 Views
well since almost everything he said turned out to be BS why not that too? random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:36:25 PM 341 Views
That's my main objection, yes. Legolas - 25/10/2009 10:50:49 PM 339 Views
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