Yeah, how dare they give some Arab loser a space to publish an op-ed! Commie bastards!
Legolas Send a noteboard - 03/05/2017 06:15:54 PM
Seriously, though, while I will readily admit to being irked sometimes by the Guardian's tone or editorial stances, this is absurd. If you react like this - subject line and three quarters of your post ranting about the Guardian, only one paragraph discussing the topic at hand - to an op-ed that just so happens to be published in a newspaper you don't like, you maybe need to consider cooling off a little.
As I said to AA, while you of course have every right to rip into the actual author of the piece if you think he writes nonsense, ranting about the Guardian makes no sense when I'm the one who showed you the piece.
View original postAt a practical level, talking to anyone makes sense if there is a chance that it will lead to progress in solving a problem. However, let's just be honest here for a moment: there is no solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict at this point. Hamas could change its charter 20 times, or just change it in a week to say, "We recognize Israel, we love Israel, Israel and the Jews are the best," but the trust level is SO LOW that no one will take them at their word. No one will do that now. I doubt Hamas trusts Israel enough to take steps to build any lasting peace. There is an admission on their part that Israel can hurt them more than they can hurt Israel, but I doubt there's much that will come of it.
One doesn't have to take them at their word to negotiate with them. Look at Northern Ireland - even a limited amount of mutual trust can take a long time to build, and can very easily vanish again. But the current situation wasn't moving at all, so you'll forgive me if I'm positive about one side taking a public step towards peace. I believe we've already established I'm generally a more optimistic person than you are...
Why Now Is the Time to Talk to Hamas
- 02/05/2017 06:30:35 PM
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Since Eretz Israel is still Likud's aim, and AIPAC has turned Capitol Hill into another...
- 02/05/2017 07:22:09 PM
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There's more to Israel than Likud - and more to Capitol Hill than AIPAC.
- 02/05/2017 07:37:11 PM
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But it's the Likudniks, in both countries, who have such an outsized say in matters...
- 02/05/2017 08:07:11 PM
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Hamas is still considered a terrorist group by the US and the EU.
- 02/05/2017 08:21:47 PM
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See, that's the kind of reply I was expecting.
- 02/05/2017 08:59:41 PM
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Oh, I'd still talk to them. I just don't expect anything positive will occur with them.
- 02/05/2017 09:38:47 PM
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Depends on if you believe them or not
- 02/05/2017 08:38:19 PM
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Well, at a minimum, it's still the time to talk to them and see if they'll back up their words. *NM*
- 02/05/2017 09:01:02 PM
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What else can one expect from the Guardian?
- 03/05/2017 03:26:08 AM
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Yeah, how dare they give some Arab loser a space to publish an op-ed! Commie bastards!
- 03/05/2017 06:15:54 PM
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The Guardian really can't be taken seriously
- 03/05/2017 03:10:24 PM
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You mean unless Europe is willing to give up the United States of America?
- 03/05/2017 05:49:50 PM
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Fuck the Guardian. Who is supposed to talk with Hamas ?
- 03/05/2017 04:11:01 PM
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Which part of the word 'op-ed' do you all find so difficult to understand?
- 03/05/2017 05:24:00 PM
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