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It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM

View original postIn the case of transsexual or transgender individuals, they are allowed the same autonomy to choose treatment or not, because they aren't in danger of harming themselves or anyone else whether they stay in the body they were born in or not.

But where you and others say that they aren't "harming themselves or anyone else", I disagree. I see the surgery that they are doing as great harm to themselves. I see the ramifications of their decision having harm on those around them. And I see their requirement that society treat them as socially similar to the body that they now present as inauthentic. And I'm hardly alone in this assessment.

What I'm wondering is if anyone sees it from my perspective. That for each and every other mental health issue we have, we always regard their behavior/quarks/perceptions as what they are...not true. However for this one....we take their viewpoint as valid. Why the difference?

~Jeordam

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Self-Identification vs. Mental Health Issue *trigger warning* Jeordam - 06/03/2017 08:53:17 PM 969 Views
I have to say I'm very confused about what your question is... and I don't think it's just me. Legolas - 07/03/2017 12:04:27 AM 699 Views
Yes, I'm talking about... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:03:18 PM 715 Views
Okay, clear. Legolas - 07/03/2017 06:50:00 PM 698 Views
<3 *NM* nossy - 07/03/2017 06:57:23 PM 354 Views
Mind over Matter? Jeordam - 07/03/2017 09:06:53 PM 679 Views
Mind over body might've been more apt. I believe I did answer your question actually. Legolas - 07/03/2017 10:41:01 PM 754 Views
Let's be clear.... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 11:17:02 PM 657 Views
By all means. Legolas - 07/03/2017 11:58:41 PM 686 Views
Well that's the crux of the topic isn't it.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 05:48:50 PM 596 Views
That takes us right back to body vs mind, doesn't it? Legolas - 08/03/2017 07:13:32 PM 652 Views
Well that would be the difference... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 08:54:59 PM 703 Views
So do tell me what in fact the purpose of our discussion is, then? Legolas - 08/03/2017 09:40:09 PM 653 Views
What can I possibly say? Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:45:54 PM 651 Views
There's a distinction to be made with eating disorders. Ghavrel - 08/03/2017 08:31:08 PM 654 Views
That brings us all the way back around.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 09:05:40 PM 704 Views
Because nossy - 08/03/2017 09:30:37 PM 690 Views
Two things... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:50:32 PM 641 Views
you're missing a rather obvious difference, aren't you? damookster - 08/03/2017 09:50:09 PM 666 Views
Yeah, Snoop was just saying the same. nossy - 08/03/2017 10:14:41 PM 707 Views
Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 07:12:26 PM 685 Views
Re: Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... nossy - 09/03/2017 08:52:30 PM 765 Views
So two conversations now..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:39:55 PM 662 Views
Re: So two conversations now..... nossy - 09/03/2017 10:23:39 PM 653 Views
And this is what you're overlooking.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 10:47:47 PM 684 Views
I could be wrong nossy - 09/03/2017 11:15:22 PM 653 Views
Sex vs Gender Jeordam - 09/03/2017 11:33:54 PM 646 Views
So this is an interesting point..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:56:12 PM 679 Views
Sure about that? damookster - 09/03/2017 08:53:14 PM 648 Views
It's a mater of persepctive.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:12:09 PM 660 Views
wrong damookster - 09/03/2017 09:41:53 PM 597 Views
Sure. Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:57:48 PM 698 Views
sure, could be damookster - 09/03/2017 11:56:31 PM 620 Views
I feel like this has been said several times already, in several ways Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 04:10:27 PM 658 Views
It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM 667 Views
Re: It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 07:58:57 PM 653 Views
I find your wording problematic and agenda driven. damookster - 07/03/2017 11:58:03 PM 669 Views
I appolozie if I offended Jeordam - 08/03/2017 06:18:41 PM 656 Views
no worries damookster - 08/03/2017 06:36:10 PM 673 Views
It always goes from it doesn't hurt anyone to the whole world has to change accommodate me *NM* random thoughts - 10/03/2017 02:46:38 AM 408 Views
That's true - doesn't change the issue as such but certainly there's intolerance on that side too. *NM* Legolas - 10/03/2017 07:45:43 AM 344 Views
Both extremes are dangerous random thoughts - 10/03/2017 12:59:41 PM 701 Views
Take your trigger warnings back to tumblr where they belong ßelals Girl - 07/03/2017 12:21:05 PM 789 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:04:10 PM 690 Views
I self-identify as a deity, so I need you to use My preferred pronouns in reference to Myself Cannoli - 07/03/2017 05:15:56 PM 612 Views
So I could self-identify aerocontrols - 08/03/2017 12:36:39 AM 606 Views
I read through this thread. kazetaran - 10/03/2017 12:44:03 AM 950 Views
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