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It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM

View original postIn the case of transsexual or transgender individuals, they are allowed the same autonomy to choose treatment or not, because they aren't in danger of harming themselves or anyone else whether they stay in the body they were born in or not.

But where you and others say that they aren't "harming themselves or anyone else", I disagree. I see the surgery that they are doing as great harm to themselves. I see the ramifications of their decision having harm on those around them. And I see their requirement that society treat them as socially similar to the body that they now present as inauthentic. And I'm hardly alone in this assessment.

What I'm wondering is if anyone sees it from my perspective. That for each and every other mental health issue we have, we always regard their behavior/quarks/perceptions as what they are...not true. However for this one....we take their viewpoint as valid. Why the difference?

~Jeordam

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Self-Identification vs. Mental Health Issue *trigger warning* Jeordam - 06/03/2017 08:53:17 PM 1101 Views
I have to say I'm very confused about what your question is... and I don't think it's just me. Legolas - 07/03/2017 12:04:27 AM 823 Views
Yes, I'm talking about... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:03:18 PM 842 Views
Okay, clear. Legolas - 07/03/2017 06:50:00 PM 826 Views
<3 *NM* nossy - 07/03/2017 06:57:23 PM 402 Views
Mind over Matter? Jeordam - 07/03/2017 09:06:53 PM 799 Views
Mind over body might've been more apt. I believe I did answer your question actually. Legolas - 07/03/2017 10:41:01 PM 903 Views
Let's be clear.... Jeordam - 07/03/2017 11:17:02 PM 782 Views
By all means. Legolas - 07/03/2017 11:58:41 PM 815 Views
Well that's the crux of the topic isn't it.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 05:48:50 PM 736 Views
That takes us right back to body vs mind, doesn't it? Legolas - 08/03/2017 07:13:32 PM 768 Views
Well that would be the difference... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 08:54:59 PM 825 Views
So do tell me what in fact the purpose of our discussion is, then? Legolas - 08/03/2017 09:40:09 PM 766 Views
What can I possibly say? Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:45:54 PM 769 Views
There's a distinction to be made with eating disorders. Ghavrel - 08/03/2017 08:31:08 PM 779 Views
That brings us all the way back around.... Jeordam - 08/03/2017 09:05:40 PM 827 Views
Because nossy - 08/03/2017 09:30:37 PM 828 Views
Two things... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:50:32 PM 771 Views
you're missing a rather obvious difference, aren't you? damookster - 08/03/2017 09:50:09 PM 794 Views
Yeah, Snoop was just saying the same. nossy - 08/03/2017 10:14:41 PM 828 Views
Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 07:12:26 PM 807 Views
Re: Well now we are bridging a rather big gap.... nossy - 09/03/2017 08:52:30 PM 901 Views
So two conversations now..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:39:55 PM 786 Views
Re: So two conversations now..... nossy - 09/03/2017 10:23:39 PM 783 Views
And this is what you're overlooking.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 10:47:47 PM 810 Views
I could be wrong nossy - 09/03/2017 11:15:22 PM 777 Views
Sex vs Gender Jeordam - 09/03/2017 11:33:54 PM 764 Views
So this is an interesting point..... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 05:56:12 PM 803 Views
Sure about that? damookster - 09/03/2017 08:53:14 PM 772 Views
It's a mater of persepctive.... Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:12:09 PM 791 Views
wrong damookster - 09/03/2017 09:41:53 PM 707 Views
Sure. Jeordam - 09/03/2017 09:57:48 PM 830 Views
sure, could be damookster - 09/03/2017 11:56:31 PM 731 Views
I feel like this has been said several times already, in several ways Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 04:10:27 PM 765 Views
It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Jeordam - 10/03/2017 06:01:06 PM 795 Views
Re: It has been said, and I understand what is being said... Sareitha Sedai - 10/03/2017 07:58:57 PM 774 Views
I find your wording problematic and agenda driven. damookster - 07/03/2017 11:58:03 PM 787 Views
I appolozie if I offended Jeordam - 08/03/2017 06:18:41 PM 785 Views
no worries damookster - 08/03/2017 06:36:10 PM 800 Views
It always goes from it doesn't hurt anyone to the whole world has to change accommodate me *NM* random thoughts - 10/03/2017 02:46:38 AM 463 Views
That's true - doesn't change the issue as such but certainly there's intolerance on that side too. *NM* Legolas - 10/03/2017 07:45:43 AM 405 Views
Both extremes are dangerous random thoughts - 10/03/2017 12:59:41 PM 836 Views
Take your trigger warnings back to tumblr where they belong ßelals Girl - 07/03/2017 12:21:05 PM 932 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 07/03/2017 05:04:10 PM 821 Views
I self-identify as a deity, so I need you to use My preferred pronouns in reference to Myself Cannoli - 07/03/2017 05:15:56 PM 739 Views
So I could self-identify aerocontrols - 08/03/2017 12:36:39 AM 751 Views
I read through this thread. kazetaran - 10/03/2017 12:44:03 AM 1100 Views
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