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At what has she demonstrated competence? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 23/10/2016 01:09:22 AM


But at the same time she is a highly experienced,

She served less than two terms as a Senator, and four years as Secretary of State. That's hardly an impressive resume, even leaving aside the question of what exactly she accomplished in either office.
intelligent and competent woman,
At what? Little to nothing is general knowledge about her law career, aside from the scandals at the Rose Law Firm, where she ran micro-scale version of the shenanigans that would make the housing market collapse a generation later. The checks people made out for the predatory loans in the Whitewater scam were sent to her law firm, with "attn. Hillary Clinton on them." In the Clinton White House, she was neck deep in a lot of the scandals, starting with Travelgate, and all the way to their looting White House property on the way out the door, as even Democrats would admit before it became clear that she was the last line of defense against a candidate they deplore as irrationally as they accuse people of feeling towards her (ignoring the point that she's been operating in Washington in the national public eye for 24 years now, with plenty of substantive policies & actions by which to assess her, as opposed to finding the candidate's involvement with a reality show or casino tacky). She was handed the job of rolling out Obamacare mk 1 under her husband's administration, and did such a bang-up job that it rolled the policy back 15 years and is credited with inspiring the Republican takeover of Congress that same year. When she decided she wanted a Senate seat as a stepping stone to her own political career, she carpetbagged one of the safest Democratic seats in the country, running effectively unopposed, from the White House with all the power and resources of an incumbent president. And in spite of that, she won the exact same state by a much smaller margin than Al Gore, on the same ballot, getting 55% of the vote to Gore's 60%. That means 5% of the people voters chose to vote of Gore and NOT for Clinton. They liked her husband's stiff, robotic vice-president better than his wife! her service in the Senate was unremarkable, as everyone knew she was simply marking time until it was appropriate to run for President, and she was given Secretary of State as a consolation prize. I defy you to tell me with a straight face that the foreign policy of the US from 2009-2013 was anything to enhance a resume. And that's not even accounting for the blatant cronyism, mishandling of classified material and abuse of the office for fundraising which have come to light in the last few years.

Hilary Clinton has achieved nothing other than managing to marry well.


and genuinely motivated for public service in addition to mere personal ambition.

Well, it's your fantasy candidate, I suppose you can attribute any personal characteristics you like to her, since you're obviously making up professional ones.
Cannoli
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