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Obama *is* a christian, so thanks for agreeing with me on that point moondog Send a noteboard - 02/12/2015 12:17:34 AM

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taking in refugees, especially from conflicts in which we have an active role, is a long tradition in the US. we've taken in Vietnamese, Iranians, Iraqis, Germans, Italians, and many others due to the various conflicts in the regions at their respective times. we used to aspire to be "the great melting pot" but obviously if we can score some xenophobic and especially islamophobic rhetoric rather than help people, all the better for those of us who don't have to worry whether or not we'll have a place to call home tomorrow.
We won't have one if we keep this up, that's the point. You want to help someone, go help someone. But indulging your personal sanctimony at the public expense, or forcing people to tolerate dangers they do not wish to subject themselves to is not your prerogative. The same arguments you guys use against pollution apply to immigration.

An attitude does not become bad or wrong because you add the suffix "-phobic" to a descriptor. Leaving everything else aside, third world people bloc vote Democratic in enormous numbers. Why should we let you guys swamp the country with people who've done nothing to earn it or prove their allegiance?


i realize it breaks your brain to realize this, but just because i find republican ideology to be insanity defined, does not automatically place me in the democratic party. besides that point, what are you so afraid of? if your party ideals are so terrible that you have to block immigrants and refugees from entering the country just to maintain your hold on power, what exactly are you holding onto?


Taking in Vietnamese hasn't worked out so good for the gang-rape victims in Fresno. You don't hear much about them, certainly not compared to all the airtime, ink and column inches devoted to imaginary rapes, like Duke or Columbia or that Rolling Stone bullshit.

so something a handful of people belonging to a minority group does 30 years after the war that brought them here is good enough to decide it's a problem to allow refugees to escape a war now? how far into the future do we need to project to be able to make better policy decisions? or is it just safe policy to only allow white, Western christians to the US regardless of their socioeconomic and/or migrant status? i know you're usually a racist piece of shit, so i guess this stance should not surprise me at all...


The Italians were not refugees, they had no welfare, and tons of them went home. We didn't bring entire villages here to collect government checks through family reunification policies, and the Mafia gave us cause to regret the numbers we did bring in and allow to stay. The Mafia is going away now, because the Italians are assimilating and the ethnic cohesion is breaking down. If the Southern Italians had come in now, we'd be setting up special enclaves, Mafia dons would be "community leaders" and every time the police tried to bust up an extortion racket, we'd be hearing about racial profiling, along with gaseous historical lectures about the glories of the Roman Empire, when the current immigrant groups had nothing to do with that, other than occupying some of the same space at very different periods of time.

the Mafia is going away because the profit in racketeering is going away. most of the Mafia is "going legit" precisely because there is more money to be made there.



Oh, so now law enforcement is to be believed 100% when they assert that their victims WOULD have done something bad? We're supposed to believe that Michael Brown would not have harmed a fly if the police had not bothered him, that Trayvon Martin is completely innocent of any intended wrongdoing, since we can't get a confession from him. But because the FBI makes a self-serving claim that they have prevented something bad, we're to take that as stipulated?

And that's assuming the article actually says what you claim, which is pretty much the exact opposite of my experience in checking your links.

And even if 100% true, that's all you've got, alleged plots. As opposed to the Black Panthers, the Weathermen, the Sierra Club, the Bloods, the Crips, Jim Jones, the Symbionese whatever-the-hell-they-were, MS-13, and the Occupy movement, whose gatherings were as rife with assaults and rape as the typical fraternity in the most lurid imagination of a Rolling Stones writer.

The environmentalists are the leading perpetrators of terrorism by far, and since none of them are descended from Muslims or Hindus, they are totally going to inflate the count of white christian terrorists.


you're gonna have to provide current valid, semi-objective links and proof for that last claim. and the one for Occupy, while we're here. something that doesn't come from the right-wing echo chamber. otherwise you're gonna have to come into the 21st century and re-learn what the world is actually doing since the last time you stuck your head up above the sand.

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Obama *is* a christian, so thanks for agreeing with me on that point - 02/12/2015 12:17:34 AM 551 Views

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