Active Users:730 Time:04/06/2026 05:24:29 AM
Bush signed the withdrawal agreement, not Obama. Vodalus Send a noteboard - 17/11/2015 05:53:13 PM

View original post
By your logic we should support Assad. Actually, that would be a far easier way to end the civil war than by resorting to any other outcome.

Still, though, regardless of what you think of the US invasion, at the time when Obama foolishly withdrew US troops and turned Iraq over to the completely incompetent and utterly sectarian Maliki, there was no ISIS in Iraq. While the invasion destabilized Iraq, the troop withdrawal destabilized the fragile peace we had managed to piece together.


It was in December of 2008, when he dodged a flying shoe. Obama actually extended the timeline set by Bush and the Iraqis. And for the people who think it would have so simple for Obama to get an acceptable SOFA from the Iraqis I have to ask this: Why the hell didn't Bush just do it, then?

As to there being no ISIS in Iraq at that time, I think you well know they were AQI then.

南無阿弥陀仏!
Reply to message
Obama, a few days ago - ISIS is "contained" - 14/11/2015 08:22:40 PM 1821 Views
What does one thing have to do with the other? - 14/11/2015 09:30:59 PM 1199 Views
Oh, you poor naive silly man - 15/11/2015 12:15:48 AM 1139 Views
Exactly. - 16/11/2015 10:01:14 AM 1570 Views
Buash and Cheney created the mess in the Middle East?Now thats funny *NM* - 16/11/2015 01:39:32 PM 693 Views
What exactly destabilized Iraq? - 16/11/2015 02:03:19 PM 1459 Views
Does that mean you support secular dictators? - 17/11/2015 01:50:52 AM 1161 Views
Bush signed the withdrawal agreement, not Obama. - 17/11/2015 05:53:13 PM 1229 Views
stop reading crazy left wing sources - 17/11/2015 07:24:49 PM 1225 Views
The withdrawal and its timeline were part of the 2008 SOFA signed by Bush. - 17/11/2015 07:36:56 PM 1109 Views
Just becuase people tell you stupid things does not mean you have to believe them - 19/11/2015 07:34:25 PM 1039 Views
Wow! I'm communicating with someone from an alternate reality. *NM* - 19/11/2015 10:32:56 PM 729 Views
nope, just a republican - 20/11/2015 12:41:15 AM 1055 Views
That kind of thinking doesn't help. - 20/11/2015 04:21:21 AM 1113 Views
I suspect that happens to you a lot. *NM* - 20/11/2015 07:15:42 PM 586 Views
When did you stop beating your children? - 20/11/2015 12:27:59 AM 967 Views
True. Though obama has his share of mistakes - 17/11/2015 07:12:28 AM 1127 Views
Obama pullying troops out early - 17/11/2015 07:22:10 PM 1032 Views
How did ISIS start in Syria? Clearly it started in Iraq. - 17/11/2015 07:50:36 PM 1175 Views
If you want to take it back far enough it began in fighting Russia in Afghanistan - 18/11/2015 01:25:06 PM 1086 Views
I'm not sure how this is even a debate. - 18/11/2015 08:00:47 PM 1126 Views
where did they first take and any significant territory? *NM* - 19/11/2015 07:43:19 PM 605 Views
You're an idiot *NM* - 14/11/2015 09:32:17 PM 663 Views
Confirmed - one of the terrorists was a "Syrian Refugee" - 15/11/2015 01:35:11 AM 992 Views
Now they're saying the passport might be fake - 15/11/2015 06:36:45 AM 1128 Views
Not confirmed at all - 16/11/2015 10:00:19 AM 1499 Views
I can't see how you get from A to B - 16/11/2015 01:42:04 PM 1078 Views
I don't understand you. - 17/11/2015 01:48:02 AM 1072 Views
That is because I am not against intellectualism - 17/11/2015 07:35:17 PM 1137 Views
The fingerprints match the refugee so yes, it's confirmed. The mastermind posed as one, too. - 17/11/2015 01:45:33 AM 1063 Views
78% of all Syrian "refugees" are men. Something is up. *NM* - 17/11/2015 04:03:14 AM 736 Views
And sadly, Germany is too emasculated to respond adequately. - 17/11/2015 03:52:45 PM 1079 Views
Glad to disappoint you by having a heart - 17/11/2015 03:56:48 PM 1523 Views
A heart, but not a brain - 20/11/2015 06:00:06 PM 1065 Views
Yup *NM* - 17/11/2015 05:53:08 PM 669 Views
Deport the economic refugees to where, precisely? - 17/11/2015 08:14:51 PM 1152 Views
Back to their home countries - 17/11/2015 10:13:51 PM 1016 Views
Right. In that case, yes, they're working on that. - 17/11/2015 10:55:55 PM 1208 Views
10% acceptance for Pakistan still sounds high - 18/11/2015 02:37:29 AM 1149 Views
No one says it's easy, but the alternatives are so much worse - 18/11/2015 08:18:47 AM 1575 Views
Just answer one question - 20/11/2015 06:05:41 PM 1103 Views
Re: Just answer one question - 20/11/2015 10:34:35 PM 1586 Views
You're so naive. - 22/11/2015 06:25:04 PM 1137 Views
Calling all liberal posters - Paris Mastermind boasts about using the refugee crisis - 17/11/2015 04:30:25 AM 1067 Views
Again, you're doing a great job for them. - 17/11/2015 08:17:09 AM 1556 Views
"Even if there were a handful of terrorists among the refugees" - 17/11/2015 01:23:54 PM 1183 Views
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...." - 20/11/2015 12:37:55 AM 1200 Views
It's a fucking statue. It has nothing to do with freedom or anything of the sort. - 20/11/2015 01:17:57 AM 1180 Views
Well said - 20/11/2015 08:03:26 PM 1159 Views
For better or worse... - 21/11/2015 04:56:50 AM 1169 Views
Re: For better or worse... - 24/11/2015 02:19:50 AM 1291 Views
Re: For better or worse... - 27/11/2015 09:51:16 PM 1316 Views

Reply to Message