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The distinction between the first two is negligible Joel Send a noteboard - 29/07/2015 07:52:50 PM

Few people TRY to sound like a douche, after all, but "trying to sound cool" defines hipster douchery almost as well as the "fake culture" definition rt suggested. "Ya'll" does not sound cool in the South (nor, thanks to the Great Migration, most minority residents of Western and Northern cities,) it simply sounds far more natural than the deeply awkward "you guys." Likewise, in the Midwest and New England "you guys" is commonly a reflexive usage, while "ya'll" sounds forced, affected or both. Distinct singular and plural forms of the second person pronoun is generally desirable in any language, but since English abandoned that distinction nearly half a millennium ago, modern speakers are forced to improvise.

In line with that and the above discussion between rt and I, I wonder what (if anything) is English common second person plural outside the US.

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Y'all, you guys, yous guys, or hey you all? - 25/07/2015 05:38:44 PM 1033 Views
Y'all may be the American South's greatest gift to the English language. - 27/07/2015 12:14:47 AM 665 Views
*whistles innocently* - 27/07/2015 04:17:43 AM 803 Views
"Hey, you guys!" is only correct if you are Rita Moreno - 27/07/2015 04:15:07 AM 636 Views
Perhaps, but you're also wrong. - 27/07/2015 04:45:48 AM 871 Views
Both spellings are "correct" to the extent EITHER are. - 27/07/2015 05:04:43 AM 860 Views
Funny.... - 29/07/2015 12:13:35 AM 734 Views
It is also correct if you are Sloth... on a pirate ship... *NM* - 29/07/2015 07:09:56 PM 543 Views
I will defer to you and Jeordam on that one - 29/07/2015 07:45:31 PM 708 Views
well since language is a democracy and the souther dialetic is the largest Y'all wins - 27/07/2015 02:07:22 PM 792 Views
The Southern dialect is the largest by what metric? - 27/07/2015 06:26:20 PM 780 Views
It also the accent most similar to what Victorian brits would have spoken - 27/07/2015 07:45:09 PM 707 Views
Whoa, now: The PIEDMONT accent may be closest to Received Pronunciation, but is not the whole South - 28/07/2015 12:37:56 AM 786 Views
I don't make the catagories but all the southern accents tend to be close *NM* - 28/07/2015 02:12:15 PM 495 Views
Except, as you noted, Virginias accent is closer to Englands (and New Englands, and South Africas) - 28/07/2015 11:00:46 PM 751 Views
that is not what I said - 29/07/2015 02:14:49 PM 764 Views
Sorry, I credited you w/knowing the Deep South, Appalachia and TX sound nothing like any UK accents - 29/07/2015 07:42:21 PM 709 Views
read slower and then read again until you understand what I said - 29/07/2015 08:14:19 PM 983 Views
"The people in the American South were Victorian Brits"?! I must have read that too fast - 29/07/2015 10:39:08 PM 718 Views
Erm. Not really sure what you're saying here... - 29/07/2015 11:35:26 PM 675 Views
Would "UK English" have been better? - 30/07/2015 10:47:53 PM 717 Views
Not really. - 31/07/2015 07:30:41 AM 673 Views
David Crystal estimates proficient non-natives outnumber native English speakers 3:1 - 10/08/2015 02:45:58 AM 651 Views
Interesting stuff. - 10/08/2015 07:12:26 PM 751 Views
Who says "yous guys"? Seriously? - 27/07/2015 07:56:28 PM 703 Views
B-movie mobsters - 28/07/2015 12:40:04 AM 876 Views
They said it when I lived in Chicago - 28/07/2015 02:10:27 PM 689 Views
Scots. - 28/07/2015 02:42:28 PM 733 Views
I have heard it a couple of times. - 28/07/2015 03:13:20 PM 684 Views
Isn't fake culture almos the defintion of hipster? *NM* - 28/07/2015 05:18:53 PM 363 Views
Depends, are trying to sound cool, like a douche, or Joe Pesci? *NM* - 29/07/2015 07:12:28 PM 554 Views
The distinction between the first two is negligible - 29/07/2015 07:52:50 PM 726 Views

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