Those, and, y'know, the rampant pedophilia…. :vomits:
People would not even know pedophilia is wrong if not for the Church. Or do you think the meme entered Western culture through the Greeks or Romans?
As far as liberal hypocrisy goes, in the worlds of one of the biggest liberal hypocrites "There you go again." Saying that it is as wrong for a homosexual man to take a bunch of boys camping in the woods as it is for a heterosexual man to take a bunch of girls leads to shrill liberal denunciations and citations of SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, that most pedophiles are married and heterosexual. And then you turn around and demand that we solve the problem of priests supposedly committing pedophilia by demanding they join that category.
Make up your minds already.
There is a thing called "liberty of conscience." It is often unpopular in Vatican City,
And the DNC.
but remains integral to the US and Christianity (else life would be deterministic and each persons feelings, works, faith, submission to Christ and salvation pre-ordained/denied and unalterable; did you become a Calvinist without telling anyone?
) Liberty of conscience is Americas seminal contribution to the world, our solution to the bloody Thirty Years War and English Civil War that spawned so much American colonization, so our "fundamental" birthright, respect for which is incumbent on all American conservatives. A mans right to swing his arm ends where it meets anothers nose, and not until. If it meets no nose but his own (even if some BELIEVE but cannot PROVE it does) it is no one elses business.
Tumors are human LIFE too, but since they are not human BEINGS their removal is not murder.
No one argues against the removal of tumors. Only fetuses. Or are you now exerting presumptuous authority to declare that they are not human life, or that you have the ability to discern the point at which those qualities become present in a human being?
I concede grave reservations about whether homosexuality and transgendering causes self-harm, mainly because they preclude the lifelong enrichment of the literal and fullest form of human union (i.e. childbirth.)
Which is not a privilege given to everyone, nor a right. Any such statements expressed by a defender of the practice of murdering children out of convenience is fatuous hypocrisy in the extreme.
And I agree in principle that no particular form of universal temptation we all inherited through our carnal flesh exempts anyone from responsibility and eventual accountability (one way or the other.) But, ultimately, everyone elses real or imagined sins or self-harm are also neither my fault nor problem. In terms of this discussion, no partisans who casually dismiss children starving
There is a difference between "casually dismissing" or accepting the limitations of our ability to provide for such, or efficacy of government programs in doing so. Remember, you're the one who believes in zero-sum economics. Any government program to provide welfare for starving children is taking money away from others who might do a better job at it. If you want to toss Bible verses around, "The poor you will always have with you..."
Killing poor people, even in utero, to reduce the numbers of poor people, aside from being reprehensible, is never going to work.
because they "choose" birth to impoverished parents has any place to paternalistically protect others from genuine choices to live their beliefs. My serious issues with Catholic doctrine are surely obvious, but one thing I have long admired is its consistency: When the Pope says he is pro-life, he does not mean "except criminals."
I admire how God has never allowed a Pope holding that opinion to speak ex cathedra on the subject, it being merely his opinion.
*Not that it matters, but if it helps you sleep nights: I know no evidence Jenner (who publicly identifies as "NONsexual") is GAY, only transgender. All (known) past sexual relationships were with women, and, in terms of parenting, siring half a dozen kids by three wives likely provides ample parental fulfillment. But if not: Not my call. Nor yours. And spare us the pretention to "respect Jenners right to self-determination despite strongly disagreement with the chosen form:" The vitriol spawning this thread shows no respect for anyone nor anything, and pretending otherwise insults not only Jenner, but also those of us who DO respectfully disagree.
I honestly don't care. I feel bad for him, but he's done this to himself. What I am concerned about is MY freedom of conscience to not be forced to treat him as a woman. I have not the slightest idea how that could ever come around to hurt or inconvenience me, but given the track record of other such mendacious claims by the left in the last 50 years, you people have exactly no trust left. The freedom to sodomize one another the privacy of their own bedrooms has metastasized into punishing business owners for declining to take part in their "personal, private, what-do-you-care-what-they-do-with-their-lives, affairs". If you are going to condemn Republicans by association with a Speaker of the House for actions no one knew he was committing when he was so chosen (and by a vote of a few hundred politicians, not exactly by the Tea Party or the heartland Christian voters), then providing direct services for an event that might be immoral is definitely something that people should be free to decline. IBM is castigated for who they sold computers too, so the right to refuse service MUST be a a fundamental part of freedom of conscience and freedom of association. But all these arguments about "how does this affect you?" got the ball rolling, until people's lives were ruined because of a couple of trolls whose sexual deviation happens to be fashionable decided to harass their bakery.
Every time you people start demanding the privacy of the bedroom, it never stays there.