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Well, that was my position when moondog posted the first time on this site Cannoli Send a noteboard - 03/12/2014 11:31:35 PM

This was what I said:
"Maybe this is a case of injustice, and police abuse. If true, that would be bucking a trend, which has got to the point that while waiting to get a more objective perspective on the facts, I, as anti-government as anyone on this site, am automatically skeptical on any such "racial" issue. The facts tend to bear otherwise, with just about every major case of so-called racism in recent years either a lie, a hoax or an attribution to actions with other explanations."

I also recall a number columnists I read regularly, such as Thomas Sowell and Pat Buchannan also saying that we don't know enough to make up our minds, and that people should wait until the facts come out. Unfortunately, all too often, that means waiting until the lies told by witnesses and propagated by the media, which support the Racist Amerikkka narrative, are sorted out or disproved by ATM receipts or forensic evidence. It means waiting until someone manages to find out about the injuries inflicted on the "racist" gunman, which are ignored by the media, when they are not actively photoshopping them out before airing the pictures. Considering the role of the TV news media, in cases such as editing the 911 call George Zimmerman made, altering the pictures to conceal his injuries, and editing the tape of Rodney King's arrest, those who do not devoutly accept the Racism narrative are automatically skeptical. As initially reported, this story overwhelmingly painted Wilson in a bad light and was sympathetic to Brown. "Wait for the facts" is all that those without the racial axe to grind have to say, because there is no evenhandedness or objectivity in the initial reports. Even those stories or reports which purport to simply report the facts do so in a manner that cast the shooter in the villain of the tale. In the case of the article to which moondog linked back in August, the article admitted that there were conflicting accounts, but only chose to quote eyewitnesses and reports sympathetic to Brown.

When we actually get a case of flat out racism, we'll see if A. those of us who are skeptical of such cases do, in fact, leap to the wrong conclusion and take the side of the racist before all the facts are known (and especially if we do so as wholeheartedly and emotionally as the SJWs did behind Crystal Mangum or Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown), and B. if any of us refuse to admit we were wrong when the facts are definitively established (as opposed to the sort of judicial lynching as in the second trial of Rodney King's arresting officers).

It's kind of unfair to accuse our side of probable ideological fixation in the face of facts, when in just about every case, the facts tend to support us.

Cannoli
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