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That isn't my argument. nossy Send a noteboard - 03/12/2014 10:04:39 PM

And now you made me get out the computer. I can't rant on the phone.


View original postAnd I have looked. Since you are more rational than most of the left leaning people on this site I was curious why you would think the Grand Jury is wrong. You are in the fact that I don't see any nuance in this. The complete lack of evidence need to get a conviction seem to take nuance out of the equation.

I don't think the grand jury is wrong - I wasn't there, and I don't know what they know. That's not my point at all. If I had to pick, I'd be more on the "side" of the cop, but that's also not my point. It's that I'm making that decision based on very limited information, which makes me exceedingly uncomfortable.

We are all choosing sides based on very limited information. I wish people* didn't seem so gleeful about this. Maybe it hasn't been your experience, but I've seen so many posts/comments by white people that are borderline (if not outright) racist. It's making me want to puke, because though I don't think Brown was innocent, and I don't think he should have resisted (etc) Wilson, and looting is abhorrent (and, and, AND!!), I don't like that we're using this as a reason to pretend racism doesn't exist, or that it's becoming ok again because someone else is acting like an idiot, or that these people absolutely can't have any well-earned reason for desperately wanting to fight the system, or are so apathetic that "bring it on" feels more appropriate than "sorry, officer, I'll go home now," or, or OR!!

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I told you it would be tiring. The nuance isn't in the case itself (or I'm not well-informed enough to find it there). It's in the way everyone is treating it as one thing or another, when there are so many freaking layers I can't stand it.

*possibly mostly the media flavoring things, but I've seen too much shit on facebook to believe it's all down to them.

For the record, none of this rant is directed at you. I definitely appreciate your attempt at true/fair discourse. I'm just ANGRY.

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