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Nonsense Sports_Gambler Send a noteboard - 30/11/2014 06:57:39 AM

View original postBased on all of the evidence presented to the jurors, they made the right decision. Let's summarize:


View original postBrown just stole from a convenience store


View original postThen threatened the clerk

True but not relevant. Wilson (the cop) couldn't have known
that Brown was the culprit.


View original postWhen walking in the street, the cop told him to move


View original postHis reply was f'off

True, but that only shows the kid was a punk. Not that he deserved to get shot.




View original postCop said stop and started to get out of the police car


View original postBrown pushed the door close and punched him in the face

Debatable.
Cop pulled up right in front of Brown and opened the door against him without warning; the door hit Brown and bounced off him - Brown didn't push the door closed.

Then Wilson grabbed Brown by the neck to pull him into the car. It's true a few punches may have been swung.



View original postThen tried to grab his gun

False, no witnesses saw this.



View original postFirst ran away, then turned back and charged

False again, he ran away because Wilson was shooting at him; he turned after getting hit once with his hands up and said 'OK OK I give up, I don't have a gun!'. He only stumbled a few feet towards Wilson at walking pace, but Wilson simply keep blasting away - firing 12 times in total and hitting Brown in the head, killing him.


View original postThen he was shot


View original postPretty simple decision here.

Lets compare Europe to the US to see how many people cops shot dead in this past year (Source: Economist):

US cops: 409
German cops: 8

The rate at which cops in the States are killing people is way higher than any other Western country. This is not normal behaviour for any other developed nation.

Here are two more recent cases of people getting shot by US cops:

12-year old kid playing with a toy gun in a park. The cops claim they thought the gun was real and told him to drop the gun but in fact video shows he was given no warning at all: Video shows the cops simply pulled over and within 2 seconds simply let rip all guns blazing, killing him. 2 seconds was simply not enough time for them to shout a warning as they claimed:

Story here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/26/justice/cleveland-police-shooting/

Here's another case:

A man was peacefully making a purchase in a Walmart store of an air-gun. This was a perfectly legal purchase. But someone in the store mistook him for a robber and alerted the cops. They all rushed over and let rip, guns blazing, killing him.

Story here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/24/us/ohio-walmart-death/

There are many more stories like this. This is not normal behaviour for cops in any other developed nation.

This message last edited by Sports_Gambler on 30/11/2014 at 07:15:34 AM
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Ferguson Grand Jury Decision - Good Call! Anonymous2000 - 29/11/2014 01:29:14 PM 1215 Views
Grand Juries don't determine guilt or innocence. beetnemesis - 29/11/2014 04:36:35 PM 860 Views
Yes, there were winners and losers..... Anonymous2000 - 29/11/2014 07:45:33 PM 833 Views
Re: Grand Juries don't determine guilt or innocence. Isaac - 30/11/2014 10:56:14 AM 1201 Views
Re: Grand Juries don't determine guilt or innocence. beetnemesis - 01/12/2014 12:56:10 AM 803 Views
we do not subject people to trail whne there is little to no chance of conviction random thoughts - 30/11/2014 02:07:10 PM 717 Views
If they really need a trial to sort this out they could try Dorian Johnson as accesory to murder random thoughts - 30/11/2014 09:18:44 PM 933 Views
Nonsense Sports_Gambler - 30/11/2014 06:57:39 AM 822 Views
*NM* *NM* Sports_Gambler - 30/11/2014 07:05:40 AM 426 Views
Well your post is nonsense but I am not sure thats is what you meant random thoughts - 30/11/2014 03:51:30 PM 815 Views
I was going to reply, but you already wiped up the mess. Thanks! *NM* Anonymous2000 - 30/11/2014 08:55:31 PM 369 Views
According to a member here who supports the murder-by-cop version of the Walmart story... Cannoli - 01/12/2014 03:56:56 AM 929 Views
watch the crawford video yourself and tell us where you think he deserved to die moondog - 04/12/2014 06:19:11 PM 858 Views
Re: Well your post is nonsense but I am not sure thats is what you meant Sports_Gambler - 01/12/2014 09:11:38 AM 765 Views
Your argument seems to rest on the idea that Brown was behaving rationalyand your persoanl bias random thoughts - 01/12/2014 01:32:20 PM 776 Views
Yes, Germans sound exactly like the kind of people who pick fights with cops... Cannoli - 01/12/2014 04:02:02 AM 807 Views
Well... ironclad - 01/12/2014 11:03:51 PM 816 Views
and a cryihg shame you don't have such a peice of paper random thoughts - 02/12/2014 01:37:38 PM 750 Views
LOL ironclad - 02/12/2014 04:07:06 PM 745 Views
I didn't know you were fixing the problem random thoughts - 02/12/2014 07:12:12 PM 762 Views
Indians were foreigners. We didn't have an elected government murdering our own. Cannoli - 03/12/2014 11:34:53 PM 723 Views
the indigenous population were "foreigners"? that is to laugh.... moondog - 04/12/2014 07:56:22 PM 753 Views
just because you lack the intilect to undestand a concept does make it invalid random thoughts - 04/12/2014 11:08:57 PM 720 Views
The problem is the usual one in American politics - people don't even agree on the facts anymore. Legolas - 30/11/2014 06:23:34 PM 778 Views
The problem is people are ignoring the facts and the media is leading the charge *NM* random thoughts - 01/12/2014 01:33:43 PM 505 Views
Bingo..... *NM* Anonymous2000 - 01/12/2014 02:43:50 PM 374 Views
I agree completely, but probably not for the same reasons. *NM* nossy - 01/12/2014 08:21:46 PM 389 Views
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I honestly don't feel like discussing that with you, because nuance doesn't seem to be a thing. nossy - 02/12/2014 09:54:53 PM 736 Views
Sorry but I am just have a hard time finding anyone making a valid argument that GJ was wrong random thoughts - 03/12/2014 02:13:47 PM 779 Views
That isn't my argument. nossy - 03/12/2014 10:04:39 PM 794 Views
Re: That isn't my argument. moondog - 04/12/2014 08:06:38 PM 955 Views
rampid stupidity it the real problem and thank for demonstraing that random thoughts - 04/12/2014 11:06:49 PM 1117 Views
I don't care what you say to MD anywhere else, nossy - 05/12/2014 11:29:43 AM 861 Views
How many people on "your" side waited for these facts to make up their mind? Legolas - 01/12/2014 08:30:03 PM 756 Views
why all of them of course random thoughts - 01/12/2014 11:36:33 PM 768 Views
Well, that was my position when moondog posted the first time on this site Cannoli - 03/12/2014 11:31:35 PM 854 Views
the problem is that facts are often taken for granted when the police are supplying them moondog - 04/12/2014 06:25:57 PM 773 Views
so you r argument is don't believe the evidience believe what some dude oonthe internet said? *NM* random thoughts - 04/12/2014 07:28:01 PM 412 Views
good job ignoring the facts in the case. you'd make a great DA when Robert McCulloch retires *NM* moondog - 04/12/2014 07:55:47 PM 362 Views
good job make stupiud statements with nothing to back them up *NM* random thoughts - 04/12/2014 10:59:38 PM 395 Views
This is as dumb as the other post. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/12/2014 04:14:12 AM 415 Views
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