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Why do you hate America? Joel Send a noteboard - 23/07/2014 02:29:24 AM

The question is as equally fair and oblivious to demonstrated feelings. I do not want to dig up anyones personal history, but you were around and active at wotmania long enough to know how STUPID your statement was, even by the usual standard.

Such is the wonderful nature of the eternal Arab vs. Israeli struggle (even though, absent genetic studies, there is good reason to believe Palestinians are more Hebrew than anything else:) Each sides cheerleaders take any and all criticism as endorsing the other. Too bad the behavior of BOTH makes them unworthy of any support. My own sympathies are largely with Israel, because I think it largely right on principle, but the WAY its government typically presses its case is impossible to justify—Palestinian leaders are simply just as bad or worse. Even most cheerleaders rarely argue FOR any particular act of their preferred side, only AGAINST the others latest atrocity; the first is a tremendous challenge, but the second merely a matter of the latest Yahoo! news update.

By the Tanakhs millennia-old rationale for Israel first seizing Canaan and committing genocide against the natives (i.e. that those natives had so long and so thoroughly defiled themselves AND the land that they forfeited all right to it) neither side is entitled to any claim on Canaan (for lack of a better unbiased term.) By my general rule for Mideast conflicts, I strongly advocate leaving the folks who invented genocide about the same time as civilization to decide their preference among themselves, while we stay as far away from it as possible: The only thing anyone ever got from sticking their hand in that interminable meatgrinder was the privilege of drawing back a bloody nub and getting all blame for the Mideast being as screwed up and violent as when they got there.

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If by awesome you mean execrable, then yes, you're right. - 18/07/2014 11:45:53 PM 655 Views
Sounds like someone doesn't like jews! - 19/07/2014 04:24:41 AM 587 Views
It's funny you should say that. - 19/07/2014 09:36:57 AM 669 Views
your criticism would be better applied to Palestine supporters - 19/07/2014 11:50:37 AM 569 Views
My criticism IS also applied to Palestine supporters. It's not an either/or deal. - 19/07/2014 09:03:51 PM 598 Views
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Well, look who's back in the game! - 23/07/2014 07:44:45 PM 822 Views
Haltingly.... - 07/08/2014 03:41:06 AM 647 Views
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Oh lord. - 22/06/2015 10:08:22 PM 571 Views
"'Dialing for Dollars' is looking for me" - 24/06/2015 04:48:51 AM 645 Views
At the risk of prompting another long ramble, I've no idea what that reference is to. - 24/06/2015 10:39:42 PM 530 Views
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I'm going to try to shorten and summarize this a bit... - 28/06/2015 11:21:28 PM 846 Views
I couldn't help but overhear... - 19/07/2014 01:13:01 PM 642 Views
Good, I was hoping you'd drop by! - 19/07/2014 08:33:44 PM 757 Views
I strongly beg to differ with your position re: Hamas - 26/07/2014 04:25:54 PM 522 Views
Sorry, I don't see that. - 26/07/2014 08:57:08 PM 609 Views
I guess if you believe the lies of Hamas your position makes sense. - 27/07/2014 03:20:03 PM 555 Views
+1 - 27/07/2014 04:00:05 PM 626 Views
I certainly don't believe everything they say, no. - 27/07/2014 06:43:51 PM 633 Views
the carrot and stick is somewhat apt, although israel should have given way more carrots to date - 22/07/2014 08:57:13 PM 656 Views
So Israel should back the least radical Palestinian faction & construct Palestinian infrastructure? - 23/07/2014 04:51:19 AM 616 Views
yes - 23/07/2014 05:04:58 PM 768 Views
I pretty much agree with everything you said. - 24/07/2014 09:46:22 AM 740 Views
Why do you hate America? - 23/07/2014 02:29:24 AM 624 Views
Bottom line - stop lobbing missles into Israel and the problem is solved. - 28/07/2014 03:35:46 AM 542 Views
It's a circle of violence. Both sides are the villian. - 31/07/2014 03:50:52 AM 658 Views

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