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I couldn't disagree more... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 06/05/2014 10:50:19 PM

(Note: Maybe a conversation will be good for the place?)

The idea that you sitting there listening (or not listening as the case were) amounts to "forcing" you to participate boggles my mind. You do realize that prayer is not a passive activity? It is active. If you're sitting there listening to someone else pray, that is not prayer. You are just sitting there listening to someone else talk.

Also the concept of the presence of religion in a public setting amounts to establishing a religion does not work. A government establishing a religion would be the Church of England (historical). The king established the faith. He modeled it after what he believed and wanted using another as 95% of the framework (note: percentage made up on the fly...but you get my meaning hopefully).

I'm not picking a fight. I'm just stating that you sitting there doesn't amount to you participating or supporting. Much akin to <name a group> has a parade doesn't make you a supporter because you happen to pay taxes in that city.

~Jeordam

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SCOTUS - Time to pray at Town Council meetings! Anonymous2000 - 05/05/2014 06:54:56 PM 1046 Views
I'm agnostic but I think they made the right decision random thoughts - 05/05/2014 08:09:21 PM 664 Views
Yeah, pretty much how I feel *NM* Urza - 06/05/2014 12:27:22 AM 282 Views
Absolutely.....I'm not religious, but I love this decision..... Anonymous2000 - 06/05/2014 02:36:29 AM 607 Views
I think you're misunderstanding the problem. It's not a question of being "offended" beetnemesis - 06/05/2014 02:43:26 PM 573 Views
But look at what you're advocating for... Jeordam - 06/05/2014 10:55:56 PM 579 Views
let's not go to extremes moondog - 07/05/2014 12:33:38 AM 573 Views
please point out where constitution calls for a separation of church and state random thoughts - 07/05/2014 06:44:42 PM 595 Views
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...." moondog - 08/05/2014 12:37:06 AM 559 Views
so the answer no you can't random thoughts - 08/05/2014 04:50:26 AM 562 Views
"... or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" You left that part out, kinda important *NM* Isaac - 12/05/2014 01:11:02 AM 408 Views
Again- it's not about being offended beetnemesis - 07/05/2014 04:02:29 AM 629 Views
America doesn't have seperation of church and state it has freedom of relgion random thoughts - 07/05/2014 06:42:19 PM 583 Views
Not exactly. Legolas - 07/05/2014 07:01:23 PM 585 Views
The words are clear and the intent is well documented random thoughts - 08/05/2014 05:13:42 AM 589 Views
I am reading de Tocqueville right now and he expresses similar sentiments. Tom - 05/05/2014 08:20:51 PM 599 Views
Yeah, seems sensible. Legolas - 05/05/2014 10:08:39 PM 600 Views
Re: Yeah, seems sensible. kHz1000 - 06/05/2014 07:04:01 PM 576 Views
our Constitution expressly prohibits the establishment of religion by government, though moondog - 06/05/2014 09:20:19 PM 576 Views
I couldn't disagree more... Jeordam - 06/05/2014 10:50:19 PM 581 Views
bad analogy moondog - 07/05/2014 12:19:26 AM 577 Views
But the GOVERNMENT is participating/supporting beetnemesis - 07/05/2014 04:17:32 AM 572 Views
Yeah, I'm aware. Legolas - 07/05/2014 07:03:36 AM 583 Views
That's not unreasonable A Deathwatch Guard - 06/05/2014 08:01:48 AM 648 Views
There's plenty that I don't want.... Jeordam - 06/05/2014 10:57:41 PM 615 Views
The Economist's take (which offers something for both sides, I'd say) Legolas - 07/05/2014 06:52:23 PM 681 Views
In Keeping With Tradition Is Terrible Justification MrFarstrider - 08/05/2014 03:37:34 AM 610 Views
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