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You do? Why? Legolas Send a noteboard - 02/03/2014 03:21:56 PM

View original postCheck out this lovely video by the BBC. These are the people who are really in charge of Kiev (because they have guns). While we can debate the extent to which they pose an existential threat to the Russians in Crimea and the Eastern part of the Ukraine, the fact is that Russia lost 20 million people in World War II and many survivors are still alive, and stories like this have been played in Russia and struck a nerve. I don't think Russians have been this angry since World War II with another country.

I don't think they are "really in charge of Kiev". But yeah, of course I understand what the Russophones in Ukraine and the Russians must think of that (if we ignore for a moment Russia's own far-right and ultranationalist elements...).

What do you think of this analysis?

View original postAnd yes, I posted this on Facebook, too.

Have to say that guy acting as a Putin cheerleader in that Facebook update of yours rather confused me with all the LOLs. Does he really support Putin, or is he just that disgusted with Western foreign policy that he has sympathy for any realpolitik-practicing autocrat who ignores the sensitivities of the West, be it Putin or Al-Sisi?

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Don't Make me Laugh, Mr. Obama Tom - 01/03/2014 03:14:50 AM 1389 Views
i like obama and even i think that was dumb of him. *NM* temeraire - 01/03/2014 05:24:39 AM 484 Views
yep yep. why do you hate on Kerry, though ? *NM* AgentApple - 01/03/2014 08:11:52 AM 393 Views
He's a useless asshat. *NM* Tom - 01/03/2014 04:14:54 PM 396 Views
He's not the only lame duck in this, though. DomA - 01/03/2014 05:41:01 PM 910 Views
It's a little more complicated than that, I think. Legolas - 01/03/2014 07:42:20 PM 762 Views
It's always more complicated... DomA - 01/03/2014 08:57:54 PM 755 Views
Yes yes yes. This. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:11:19 PM 707 Views
Well, we split on that then - I most certainly do not support such an annexation. Legolas - 01/03/2014 10:25:48 PM 702 Views
Any reason you keep misspelling Sevastopol? Tom - 02/03/2014 12:52:01 AM 891 Views
You write "the Ukraine", while calling me old-fashioned? Legolas - 02/03/2014 01:57:58 AM 763 Views
Yes. Dropping "the" is an anti-Russian move. It will always be the Ukraine. Tom - 02/03/2014 02:58:32 AM 768 Views
Just because there's an article in Russian doesn't mean there has to be one in English. Legolas - 02/03/2014 11:21:25 AM 712 Views
I say the Sudan and the Congo. Tom - 02/03/2014 02:17:33 PM 761 Views
You do? Why? Legolas - 02/03/2014 03:21:56 PM 845 Views
As with most analysis at the Guardian, I think it's wrong. Tom - 02/03/2014 05:00:20 PM 768 Views
This one from a former advisor of Reagan-Bush might be closer to your views DomA - 05/03/2014 09:01:13 PM 915 Views
" la Crimée vaut bien un tiramisu" - I liked that. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:06:55 PM 776 Views
Yeah, I laughed reading that too. The original piece in English was probably better... DomA - 06/03/2014 02:08:03 AM 761 Views
I don't think it's limited to Crimea. They will likely occupy Eastern Ukraine as well. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:08:56 PM 727 Views
its going to be hard to find support from the West MrFarstrider - 01/03/2014 06:37:15 PM 693 Views
Well, no one in Europe or the US has any direct interest here. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:13:36 PM 669 Views
Obama is weak and is viewed as a joke by most of the world. Anonymous2000 - 03/03/2014 04:12:25 PM 644 Views
Don't worry, not as much as the ape before him *NM* ironclad - 04/03/2014 03:23:14 PM 424 Views
So what's your plan of action? Jay Sherman - 03/03/2014 11:25:59 PM 716 Views
My plan of action is to let Putin have Ukraine. We have no interests there. *NM* Tom - 04/03/2014 01:29:45 AM 433 Views
Ehem. Why are you being anti-Russian? ;-) The Shrike - 04/03/2014 01:25:37 PM 743 Views
Lack of space in a subject line that was the entire message. Tom - 04/03/2014 02:21:49 PM 719 Views
I watch дождь via etvnet.com. Lovely site for all Russian TV. The Shrike - 04/03/2014 08:23:58 PM 712 Views
I like their criticism of Putin generally, but I don't buy the "enemy of my enemy" position. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:39:15 PM 676 Views
Of course we do random thoughts - 04/03/2014 04:57:09 PM 737 Views
Wrong. Tom - 04/03/2014 06:04:31 PM 652 Views
that ignores the point random thoughts - 06/03/2014 02:01:09 PM 894 Views
No, it doesn't. Tom - 06/03/2014 02:57:16 PM 679 Views
Re: No, it doesn't. random thoughts - 06/03/2014 06:22:32 PM 738 Views
Yes, the US violated the agreement. Tom - 06/03/2014 07:27:23 PM 791 Views
I have answered your question but you have still refused to answer my point random thoughts - 07/03/2014 01:48:53 PM 722 Views
You assume that the Ukraine's borders should be inviolate. Tom - 09/03/2014 05:56:45 PM 724 Views
Russia signed an agreement to not violate those borders random thoughts - 10/03/2014 12:18:37 PM 687 Views
Yes, and we signed the UN Charter, but invaded Kosovo anyway. Your point? Tom - 10/03/2014 01:10:33 PM 661 Views
Oh, and now the West is talking about $15 billion in loans for Ukraine. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:41:12 PM 682 Views
And you see that as the same thing as sending in troops? random thoughts - 06/03/2014 01:37:28 PM 688 Views
I think you've listened to too much propaganda from the 1990s. Tom - 06/03/2014 03:06:18 PM 654 Views
More like the 80s random thoughts - 07/03/2014 01:50:43 PM 700 Views
So I guess traveling to Russia extensively is of no value. Tom - 09/03/2014 05:58:00 PM 643 Views
in this case no it doesn't. random thoughts - 10/03/2014 12:20:13 PM 669 Views
Right...do you understand how stupid that made you sound? Tom - 10/03/2014 01:11:34 PM 636 Views
Or alternatively, it made him sound as someone who was just referring to something else than you. Legolas - 10/03/2014 08:14:00 PM 694 Views
The junk they used in Chechnya was laughable... everynametaken - 16/03/2014 01:51:28 AM 835 Views
Its a great time to throw some missiles in Poland MrFarstrider - 04/03/2014 03:43:24 AM 737 Views
Call me crazy, but I like this idea! MonCul - 04/03/2014 12:31:07 PM 800 Views
There are no longer two super powers *NM* random thoughts - 04/03/2014 04:40:16 PM 391 Views
Under Obama, it would seem there are none. *NM* Tom - 04/03/2014 06:15:27 PM 375 Views
at Poland *NM* ßelals Girl - 04/03/2014 08:09:14 PM 379 Views
In case you're not familiar with BMD MrFarstrider - 04/03/2014 11:13:06 PM 779 Views
I know what you're talking about, I was just kidding around *NM* ßelals Girl - 04/03/2014 11:41:20 PM 407 Views
*NM* MrFarstrider - 05/03/2014 12:38:54 AM 400 Views
*NM* ßelals Girl - 05/03/2014 01:00:57 AM 382 Views
Ron Paul, interestingly enough, agrees with me. Tom - 04/03/2014 02:38:44 PM 693 Views
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