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Just because there's an article in Russian doesn't mean there has to be one in English. Legolas Send a noteboard - 02/03/2014 11:21:25 AM

Might as well start again with "the Congo", "the Sudan" (or Soudan while we're at it), etc. In English (and Dutch) those articles have all fallen into disuse - even if in Russian it still is "the Ukraine", and in Arabic it still is "the Sudan".

View original postHolodomor is a politically charged term that Western Ukrainians use to try to distinguish the famine that they experienced from the induced famine that the rest of the Soviet Union experienced, and to further their facetious narrative that it was a genocide against them, when in fact as many (if not more) Russians died in the great famine of 1932-1933 - it's just that Russia had a larger population. Of course, the Ukrainians use the term as an indictment of Russians, but it was Stalin (a Georgian) who engineered the whole thing.

I agree that one should not just pretend that the Soviet Union leadership was per definition Russian, and that all the other SSRs were oppressed by the Russians or whatever, like some former SSRs seem to like to do because it's politically convenient.

Based on the estimates I've seen at Wikipedia, the clear majority of the dead were in fact Ukrainians (or rather, citizens of the Ukrainian SSR), but that does not prove that it was specifically intended against them, that's clearly an issue that historians don't agree on and I know far too little about it to take a position. What I definitely agree with you on is that Ukrainian nationalists seem to be abusing the issue - this proposed law equating "Holodomor denial" with Holocaust denial is preposterous.

View original postLet's have a bet - you think Putin won't go beyond Crimea? Give him a week and he might be in Kiev. The Russians will certainly intervene in more areas. That's my opinion.

Okay, bet accepted.
View original postAlso, Kharkov (not Kharkiv - that's a Ukrainian spelling) is not really under the control of its governor anymore. If he tries to do anything against the crowd, they'll just replace him and the Russian APCs will be rolling through the streets to cheers.

Oh, I noticed that, but I was merely citing it as an example that far from all Eastern Ukrainians want to join Russia, and while there would no doubt be a cheering crowd for the Russian army, there would also be many who are furious or devastated about such a display. Much like there are plenty of people in the West who also have Russian as mother tongue and feel just as uncomfortable about the anti-Russian tone of Svoboda and others.

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