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Re: A couple of bits that I would add to your comments DomA Send a noteboard - 30/10/2013 04:17:26 PM

View original postAround May 2007, when I finally accepted that Mike wasn't really going to do much with/for his site, I shifted my focus away from OF and re-established the OF Blog as a means of furthering certain interests that I felt weren't being addressed well at the site. It is interesting to note that there were at least three others who did post at OF/wotmania from 2005-2008 who went on to establish some very important SF/F (OK, one mostly joined to pimp his blog, but still, it took visibility here at least as much at Westeros back around 2005-2007 to gain influence) blogs. Yes, today Westeros' Literature section is slightly more active than OF was post-2005, but it never really focused on creating content (discussing it, however, was much better than at OF in its latter days, alas).

Certainly didn't help that almost all of those who did try to provide content for their various sections did not become leaders here, although our reasons for that differ, as you already know.


That's for sure.


1) The layout/format is very unfriendly for those who use social media or other forum layouts. Might as well use Usenet, I suppose.

Indeed. We were used to that (to the point of preferring this system, for some) but it's always been a big obstacle for many who posted at TL/Dragonmount. In WOT discussions here it favored a lot tangential discussions with frequent circular debates.


2) The notion that combined boards would improve matters is strange, considering it wasn't until the Other Fantasy subtopic was removed from the general board in October 2001 that there really was much discussion of anything.

I quite agree with that. This was never a favored option with those who mostly visited WMB or OF, and more with those who came mostly to Wotmania as wide-ranging social site.


Just don't think there is a panacea here for this site's terminal woes. As B.B. King sang, the thrill is gone.

Neither do I. I wouldn't put the blame on RAFO for this. It was a valuable effort, but one made extremely difficult by the bad timing (Jordan dying etc.). On the WoT side Jason's considerable efforts to expand and rejuvenate Dragonmount and make all but the official WOT site (which worked) after while Mike here lost interest in Wotmania had already done the damage. By the time Ben finally took things in hands, it was already too late to hope that the WMB section could ever regain its reputation and attractive power, and want it or not it was through WOT that people first came to the site and joined the community (or not). It was also late to re position the site as a Spec. Fic. lit. site (without massive, massive efforts to get it off the ground), when the focus had already shifted toward Blogs where the owner could do things exactly as desired without dealings with tedious and time-consumming MB politics. It might have been different had Mike passed the reins as soon as he grew disinterested, before the decline of the site.

I've seen firsthand a bit how much Wotmania's attraction had decreased with the massive (and fast) success of Linda's WOT blog. The same republished articles that had attracted a few hundred views at Wotmania in years suddenly were read by thousands and soon tens of thousand. With Mike taking his distance Wotmania had slowly but surely more or less cast itself out of the global WOT online community, much like the smaller WOT sites like Tar Valon.net.

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When did traffic on this site drop so much? - 25/10/2013 06:39:46 PM 1167 Views
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Which is why the other boards that have no political posts are dying too? *NM* - 28/10/2013 11:27:41 AM 336 Views
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Re: While Community used to have more posts - 30/10/2013 01:39:41 AM 774 Views
A couple of bits that I would add to your comments - 30/10/2013 08:01:10 AM 794 Views
Re: A couple of bits that I would add to your comments - 30/10/2013 04:17:26 PM 625 Views
That was an awesome reply! - 30/10/2013 12:04:12 PM 678 Views
Outstanding post. Very interesting. - 30/10/2013 04:22:06 PM 663 Views
The RPG board tends to stand on its own *NM* - 29/10/2013 06:39:54 PM 305 Views
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This. *NM* - 28/10/2013 11:06:09 AM 318 Views
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Agreed.....boards should be consolidated. *NM* - 28/10/2013 07:54:28 PM 357 Views
I vote for this - 28/10/2013 02:22:24 PM 863 Views
Re: I vote for this - 28/10/2013 07:29:58 PM 661 Views
I think that was/is part of the problem. People have become soft and squeamish. - 29/10/2013 11:45:36 AM 672 Views
I agree *NM* - 29/10/2013 12:09:58 PM 398 Views
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Yup *NM* - 30/10/2013 02:03:00 AM 382 Views
It is something I'm working on. - 30/10/2013 10:06:48 AM 716 Views

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