View original postThe chain of events that would set off would likely result in the collapse of the entire global economy, and that would be a good thing.
I mean if the system collapses we could make a killing selling arms. Also people are always saying we've got way too many people and nothing lowers populations like mass riots and famine.
I really doubt the US defaulting would totally tank the Global Economy but it would give a pretty rough smack and collapse is feasible if unlikely. If that happened it would be a Horror. I don't like to get over the top or melodramatic but "Untold Suffering" really is not an exaggeration of what would happen if the wheels came off.
Pragmatism sometimes has to take precedence over principles. It is all good to grandstand so long as your pedestal is a soapbox and not a pile of dead bodies.
View original postIt won't happen though. If there's one thing American politicians care about, it's amassing and protecting their own personal wealth. They'll cobble something together at the last minute to avoid bankruptcy.
I hesitate to even say most politicians are particularly selfish compared to you or me, most of the ones I know, and I know a lot of them, are probably above average in conduct and intent. But even if I accepted that they were abnormally selfish it definitely isn't cash they crave, most politicians take pay cuts just to run and often stay in long after they could easily translate that time into massive post-service income. Power? Yes. Approval? Hell Yes. Wealth? Not really.
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Government "shutdown" my ass.....
- 06/10/2013 06:48:02 PM
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- 06/10/2013 06:48:02 PM
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Actually, it is...
- 07/10/2013 04:12:30 AM
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Must we do this again?
- 07/10/2013 05:45:00 AM
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A whole generation has voted DNC twice.
- 07/10/2013 04:18:25 PM
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It voted RNC twice right before that, then DNC twice before that, then RNC thrice before that 
- 07/10/2013 05:18:31 PM
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- 07/10/2013 05:18:31 PM
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elections are a cyclical affair by nature. the gop won't always be the party of stupid.... *NM*
- 07/10/2013 08:02:44 PM
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Not to mention they've gerrymandered like there's no tomorrow.
- 07/10/2013 05:49:23 PM
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I hope we do default.
- 07/10/2013 07:04:24 PM
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Well it has been 70 years since we had a World War
- 07/10/2013 09:37:14 PM
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When gerrymandering there is no tomorrow, just the current decade
- 07/10/2013 07:29:39 PM
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I'm curious as to why you say "unpopular bill" here
- 08/10/2013 09:02:49 AM
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give a coherent reason for the shutdown and the label of economic terrorist will go away
- 07/10/2013 08:11:27 PM
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Why should I try to discourage you from using a label that makes you look like a fanatic?
- 07/10/2013 09:23:40 PM
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i guess i should have put the disclaimer you asked for so you would know to be offended, is that it?
- 07/10/2013 10:49:43 PM
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It's pretty fucking sad any of us think we need a reason to act civilly, courtesy is its own reward *NM*
- 08/10/2013 07:50:00 AM
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So you mean I shouldn't call you "an uncle fucking horsefucker" then? 
- 08/10/2013 09:04:06 AM
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That's correct Larry, that would be unproductive
- 08/10/2013 04:04:39 PM
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Of course it would; I rarely use such words toward people who might be still involved in a convo
- 09/10/2013 08:39:22 AM
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hey, i've given plenty of reasonable alternatives, i don't see why you can't compromise with me *NM*
- 08/10/2013 10:09:44 PM
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Compromises? You've called my party terrorists and made it clear it wasn't hyperbole in your eyes
- 08/10/2013 10:23:05 PM
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read what you wrote, direct it at your party, and look up "satire" if you still don't get it..... *NM*
- 08/10/2013 10:43:31 PM
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It's always painful when people think they're being funny or clever rather than sullen
- 08/10/2013 11:33:36 PM
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remember that time when the Dems shut down the government to stop the iraq war? oh wait....
- 09/10/2013 12:42:53 AM
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Probably a bad analogy pick, many of the Dem-initiated shutdowns were over defense spending
- 09/10/2013 01:11:38 AM
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ok, henceforth instead of terrorists i will use "tea-hadists". is that more to your liking?
- 09/10/2013 10:26:36 PM
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No. Overdue, insincere, and half-assed attempts at marginal courtesy is not 'to my liking'
- 09/10/2013 10:40:57 PM
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and here is the big picture, in a nutshell
- 10/10/2013 12:26:18 AM
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"Here's the big picture" remarks shouldn't start by complaining about your personal paycheck
- 10/10/2013 12:37:34 AM
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i think 800,000 federal workers would disagree but YMMV
- 10/10/2013 12:44:29 AM
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The GOP House already voted to give them back pay
- 10/10/2013 01:21:27 AM
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the House is good at making empty gestures without actually addressing the causes
- 11/10/2013 05:17:34 PM
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How is agreeing to backpay an empty gesture?
- 11/10/2013 05:37:58 PM
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it's empty because the shutdown persists. end the shutdown and they won't need back pay
- 11/10/2013 11:02:20 PM
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Make up your mind, you complained early that you weren't getting paid
- 11/10/2013 11:21:57 PM
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Clever. Did you make that one up yourself? I like it, will have to remember that one... *NM*
- 09/10/2013 11:31:22 PM
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I do remember the time when some Democrats were tarnished with that pejorative brush...
- 09/10/2013 08:48:50 AM
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Re: I do remember the time when some Democrats were tarnished with that pejorative brush...
- 09/10/2013 09:51:22 PM
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That schtick got old a long time ago. You need newer, better material.
- 10/10/2013 03:43:31 AM
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you'll be rid of me for good soon enough, don't worry about it
- 11/10/2013 05:10:00 PM
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I couldn't care less either way. Just make stronger arguments. *NM*
- 11/10/2013 05:55:05 PM
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you do realize you would come out a loser in said anarchy don't you?
- 11/10/2013 03:56:24 AM
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You do realize that when I say "there are moments when I..." that it implies something else?
- 11/10/2013 08:22:26 AM
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the republicans won more elections now the democrats have shutdown the government
- 09/10/2013 06:37:31 PM
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to quote Jon Stewart: "if you're gonna shut it down, OWN IT! Don't fart and then point at the dog" *NM*
- 09/10/2013 09:37:28 PM
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I agree. So now Obama and the senate need to step up and own it. *NM*
- 10/10/2013 06:02:56 PM
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While I agree with your sentiment, "Big Government" is not a cause.
- 07/10/2013 03:34:40 PM
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Wow. Been a long time since we had a thread like this. I like it! :-) *NM*
- 10/10/2013 03:55:50 AM
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