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Re: Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread Brian Send a noteboard - 01/10/2009 08:41:01 PM
I'm tired of the ad hominem attacks on anyone who dares to question if the legal system handled things correctly (this despite the fact that it's already said that it hasn't) and the witch hunters out for blood based on a 30 odd year old accusation and a bunch of things that were never proven.

I have learned some new facts because of it and thank those who discoursed intelligently even if they disagreed (I think you know who you are).

Take care folks.

SW

Some of the things said and accusations made about you were quite out of line. On some matters people tend to be a bit irrational. I know I wasn't really involved in the debate, most of what I had to say was aimed towards the article itself...I learned quite a lot about the case by reading the various replies.
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/History/Politics/I'm not sure: A commentary on the Roman Polanski arrest - 29/09/2009 10:15:12 AM 1262 Views
And a NYT article on the same topic - 29/09/2009 10:51:58 AM 334 Views
There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 11:53:41 AM 465 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 11:57:18 AM 555 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:09:27 PM 330 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:15:54 PM 420 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:41:56 PM 418 Views
Re: There's some seriously twisted logic in this - 29/09/2009 12:47:05 PM 441 Views
There is a word which describes the famous film director - 29/09/2009 01:05:56 PM 361 Views
There is a massive difference between Genet and Polanski - 29/09/2009 01:32:41 PM 566 Views
Yeah, there is - 29/09/2009 03:41:11 PM 399 Views
if the guy was someone else, do you think anyone would care? - 29/09/2009 02:08:15 PM 443 Views
For thousands of years 13yos have been having sex with much older males. - 29/09/2009 02:46:27 PM 373 Views
Lots of things have been going on for thousands of years. - 29/09/2009 03:35:06 PM 329 Views
Well on the flip side - 29/09/2009 03:49:35 PM 425 Views
Absolutely true enough. - 29/09/2009 04:11:28 PM 489 Views
Agreed - 29/09/2009 04:37:38 PM 429 Views
with you on this. *NM* - 30/09/2009 05:05:21 PM 280 Views
if you were talking "consensual", i'd probably at least grudgingly agree - 29/09/2009 04:07:08 PM 428 Views
Problem is that we don't know - 29/09/2009 04:46:15 PM 427 Views
he said/she said/lawyer said - 29/09/2009 05:01:41 PM 481 Views
Yep - 29/09/2009 05:28:16 PM 448 Views
I was not under the impression he did not know she was a minor - 29/09/2009 05:50:38 PM 456 Views
Well, Angelica Huston (who was there that night) didn't think she looked 'like a minor' - 29/09/2009 06:17:15 PM 473 Views
Whoa - what's with the double post? *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:17:33 PM 284 Views
Or the triple post! *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:18:13 PM 262 Views
It was a photo shoot for a film why WOULD she look like a minor?? - 29/09/2009 06:27:00 PM 483 Views
Sorry - no it wasn't for a film at all - 29/09/2009 06:39:14 PM 386 Views
I believe at some point it wasn mentioned to be connected to a film - 29/09/2009 06:42:25 PM 258 Views
I've never seen anything to support that - 29/09/2009 07:01:56 PM 278 Views
even if the paperwork didn't show it - 29/09/2009 07:06:02 PM 469 Views
Possibly - 29/09/2009 07:35:33 PM 463 Views
and i'm saying that if it was under contest - 29/09/2009 07:38:24 PM 419 Views
Do you understand how the legal system works in Common Law? - 29/09/2009 07:53:34 PM 440 Views
*shake head* wahtever - 29/09/2009 08:07:25 PM 393 Views
here is a photo of her taken that same year. - 29/09/2009 08:10:21 PM 479 Views
Seen that one as part of my research on this - 29/09/2009 08:22:33 PM 501 Views
I think it very telling that you want to take this line of when Polanski doesn't - 29/09/2009 08:36:47 PM 351 Views
Really? Who says? - 29/09/2009 08:42:38 PM 404 Views
I can't prove it wasn't aliens using mind control rays that forced him to do it - 29/09/2009 08:57:10 PM 318 Views
There is one thing I would like to say. - 29/09/2009 09:03:06 PM 324 Views
Absolutely unacceptable behavior for an administrator, Avendesora. - 30/09/2009 10:44:32 PM 405 Views
Looks like an accidental edit instead of a reply to me. *NM* - 01/10/2009 01:42:33 PM 249 Views
Agreed. I've almost done that a few times on my board. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:08:44 PM 264 Views
actually, it was an honest mistake. I accidentally clicked on "edit" instead of "reply". - 01/10/2009 06:25:48 PM 277 Views
No worries Ave - 01/10/2009 06:41:51 PM 258 Views
Ah. Sorry. - 02/10/2009 02:10:34 AM 407 Views
14-16 - 02/10/2009 05:28:02 AM 273 Views
he could have had a trial and chose not to - 29/09/2009 05:41:11 PM 432 Views
*agree* *NM* - 29/09/2009 05:50:56 PM 146 Views
Yes, he could have - 29/09/2009 05:56:05 PM 397 Views
so he fled the country to spare her the humilation of a trial? - 29/09/2009 08:11:59 PM 420 Views
Nope - 29/09/2009 08:28:58 PM 285 Views
no it isn't but you seem to have trouble understanding he drugged and rapped a child - 30/09/2009 09:24:53 PM 448 Views
You seem to have trouble understanding that an accusation isn't proof - 30/09/2009 11:04:35 PM 447 Views
The coward fled the country before anything could be proven - 01/10/2009 06:25:27 AM 437 Views
You really don't get it do you? - 01/10/2009 04:20:36 PM 230 Views
I don't get it?????? - 01/10/2009 05:22:51 PM 314 Views
Yeah - you don't and it's a good thing you're not part of the legal system - 01/10/2009 05:32:57 PM 402 Views
I call Bullshit here. Sorry Greg. - 29/09/2009 05:28:21 PM 439 Views
You're perfectly entitled to your opinions. - 29/09/2009 08:11:17 PM 384 Views
Yes, and people have been murdering each other. - 29/09/2009 05:35:26 PM 458 Views
We have no evidence of trauma. - 29/09/2009 08:12:44 PM 449 Views
For thousands of years gays have been persecuted and treated as abhorrent perverts. - 02/10/2009 02:57:47 AM 451 Views
And a big fuck you to you too. - 05/10/2009 03:08:09 PM 272 Views
He's just a troll, as he's shown in many threads. *NM* - 05/10/2009 03:19:14 PM 234 Views
Yes, it's not like I have a valid point or anything. *NM* - 05/10/2009 07:16:13 PM 253 Views
Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. - 05/10/2009 07:46:18 PM 275 Views
Well, I guess you'll have to fulfill your role here and pass sentence... - 06/10/2009 09:19:34 PM 438 Views
You're one to talk. *NM* - 06/10/2009 09:38:30 PM 229 Views
I've been following this with some interest - 29/09/2009 03:28:36 PM 286 Views
That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:38:48 PM 272 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:43:36 PM 268 Views
Re: That was my impression as well. - 29/09/2009 03:45:17 PM 257 Views
I agree with many of your points, but on some the facts seem to say something else. - 29/09/2009 04:13:09 PM 443 Views
*agree* *NM* - 29/09/2009 04:20:32 PM 226 Views
Problem of course is that those are not 'facts' - 29/09/2009 04:58:28 PM 456 Views
first you demand fact before judgement then you make a judgement on your opinion? - 29/09/2009 05:04:59 PM 396 Views
Depends on the circumstances - 29/09/2009 05:35:13 PM 413 Views
because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either - 29/09/2009 04:17:06 PM 433 Views
Re: because she doesn't have any excuse to belly up either - 29/09/2009 05:17:57 PM 357 Views
*snort* - 29/09/2009 05:30:25 PM 377 Views
I would have to agree with you there, actually - 29/09/2009 05:47:13 PM 502 Views
Re: I would have to agree with your first point, but not the second - 29/09/2009 05:47:40 PM 476 Views
There is no way in hell he did not know she was underage. - 29/09/2009 05:55:37 PM 431 Views
Not necessarily true at all - 29/09/2009 06:32:18 PM 375 Views
Somehow, i heavily doubt the fact she was NOT 18 would never have come to light - 29/09/2009 06:40:20 PM 441 Views
You may be right, I don't know. - 29/09/2009 06:58:45 PM 449 Views
so you agree he is guilty to the allegation he pleaded guilty to of sex with a minor? - 29/09/2009 07:09:07 PM 355 Views
There was never any doubt of that - 29/09/2009 07:46:43 PM 341 Views
See below, - 29/09/2009 07:54:09 PM 369 Views
Yeah, I agree about the vigilante part and the extreme reactions... - 29/09/2009 07:58:18 PM 467 Views
I think I'm reading that article more critically than you are. - 29/09/2009 08:37:23 PM 408 Views
Or you've already made up your mind, while I'm basing mine on what I read. - 29/09/2009 08:46:56 PM 477 Views
I haven't entirely made up my mind - 29/09/2009 08:55:30 PM 360 Views
don't you think he'd say something about it NOW? - 29/09/2009 08:48:59 PM 233 Views
I don't know - 29/09/2009 08:57:27 PM 264 Views
An article that has a lot of additional detail... - 29/09/2009 07:18:29 PM 459 Views
I wish i could put a nice big star next to this. - 29/09/2009 07:29:38 PM 368 Views
Umm - why? - 29/09/2009 08:04:29 PM 419 Views
Yes, well, online newspaper archives don't tend to date back very far... - 29/09/2009 08:14:52 PM 444 Views
Oh, and if you want to read the op-ed she wrote... - 29/09/2009 08:20:06 PM 381 Views
Now I'd be interested to see the actual court records - 29/09/2009 08:24:13 PM 360 Views
Me too - 29/09/2009 08:33:36 PM 238 Views
Yeah, nothing new there really - 29/09/2009 08:26:24 PM 449 Views
There's always room for exceptions, however... - 29/09/2009 04:53:34 PM 258 Views
Camilla - he drugged and raped a 13-year old.....what else do you need to know? *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:19:19 PM 259 Views
I don't know that. Neither do you. Which is part of it. *NM* - 29/09/2009 06:20:22 PM 252 Views
Yes we do..... - 29/09/2009 06:30:46 PM 415 Views
No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 06:48:35 PM 367 Views
if these "Facts" were false - 29/09/2009 07:02:50 PM 397 Views
That's extremely naive - 29/09/2009 08:07:15 PM 286 Views
i fail to see how this is naive - 29/09/2009 08:35:59 PM 439 Views
The naive part - 29/09/2009 08:49:18 PM 448 Views
I'm not assuming anyone (not just her personal testimony) was telling the truth - 29/09/2009 08:56:52 PM 470 Views
I think that I'm just more cynical than you are - 29/09/2009 09:12:12 PM 408 Views
So because i'm not cynical about the court system and have a different train of logic - 29/09/2009 09:25:53 PM 424 Views
Not necessarily wrong - 29/09/2009 09:43:33 PM 411 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation - 29/09/2009 09:51:22 PM 234 Views
Not what I read, but this whole thing is so messy... - 29/09/2009 10:25:59 PM 336 Views
I don't remember which article it was from - 29/09/2009 10:32:32 PM 212 Views
One thing that was clear - 29/09/2009 11:08:43 PM 439 Views
Ah I didn't catch that - 29/09/2009 11:15:06 PM 388 Views
Could you source that? - 29/09/2009 11:18:46 PM 418 Views
it's one of the articles that's been linked - 29/09/2009 11:59:02 PM 378 Views
The Mail article, yeah. *NM* - 30/09/2009 12:01:48 AM 119 Views
Uhm, his bargain wasn't 40-odd days in evaulation - 29/09/2009 09:51:24 PM 351 Views
Yes, we do.....drugs & rape of a 13-year old - 29/09/2009 07:10:02 PM 383 Views
you do know that just because you repeat something it doesn't instantly become true? *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:11:03 PM 109 Views
and how many times have y'all said it was false? *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:13:27 PM 253 Views
Hello pot, this is kettle, you're black too..... - 29/09/2009 08:16:16 PM 267 Views
Wow - I guess every allegation ever made by a prosecutor is true - 29/09/2009 08:09:43 PM 286 Views
I guess you believe every criminal who says "I didn't do it"..... - 29/09/2009 08:18:29 PM 365 Views
Nope - 29/09/2009 09:14:02 PM 279 Views
He admitted it. - 29/09/2009 10:45:43 PM 418 Views
You don't get it do you? - 29/09/2009 11:15:27 PM 388 Views
Nothing in the case which he admitted guilt to is in dispute. - 29/09/2009 11:45:05 PM 375 Views
Hardly - 30/09/2009 11:18:42 PM 364 Views
Seriously, are you related to Roman the Rapist? - 30/09/2009 01:11:44 AM 387 Views
I want to go on record as saying: I really dislike agreeing with you - 30/09/2009 05:03:24 AM 470 Views
Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny - 01/10/2009 12:23:53 AM 374 Views
Re: Oh, now Amy's accusing me of being a pedophile, that's just funny - 01/10/2009 05:55:46 AM 413 Views
Honestly Amy, you know nothing whatsoever about my life or why I do things - 01/10/2009 04:03:38 PM 402 Views
I only have one thing left to say to you. - 01/10/2009 04:08:42 PM 232 Views
You are certainly entitled to your opinion - 01/10/2009 04:23:32 PM 249 Views
I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:07:59 PM 229 Views
I agree, and already said the same once. It appears that was deleted. *NM* - 01/10/2009 05:15:07 PM 268 Views
Sorry Nossy.. - 01/10/2009 06:24:26 PM 384 Views
It was meant to be advice - 01/10/2009 06:39:31 PM 238 Views
That entire conversation when I deleted the original post. - 01/10/2009 06:30:00 PM 349 Views
No no.. - 01/10/2009 06:43:19 PM 404 Views
Re: I think you're getting way out of line here, Amy. - 01/10/2009 06:21:37 PM 247 Views
Heh! - 01/10/2009 06:28:07 PM 257 Views
I second that. *NM* - 01/10/2009 08:21:13 PM 120 Views
No, I happen to dislike vigilante idiots - 30/09/2009 11:21:53 PM 245 Views
Re: No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 10:09:32 PM 346 Views
Re: No, we don't. - 29/09/2009 11:21:08 PM 488 Views
I think for the 1st time ever i'm actually stunned by the comments on this board. - 29/09/2009 07:14:18 PM 331 Views
Oh but he didn't KNOW - 29/09/2009 07:17:55 PM 299 Views
Ignorance doesn't have to be proven in court - 29/09/2009 08:11:31 PM 249 Views
no you have back asswards - 29/09/2009 08:14:36 PM 283 Views
You're talking ethics and then switch to law - 29/09/2009 09:17:02 PM 253 Views
yes the law can be stupid but not so stupid that you can use the - 29/09/2009 10:32:49 PM 294 Views
Oh it's EASILY that stupid and even stupider - 29/09/2009 10:58:33 PM 418 Views
If the girl has to call and ask her mommy if she can stay late you should ask her age - 30/09/2009 04:04:33 PM 272 Views
He knew her age. The photo-shoot was specifically looking at young girls. - 30/09/2009 04:42:01 PM 389 Views
Of course he knew he age - 30/09/2009 05:01:19 PM 383 Views
Obviously - because you say so right? - 30/09/2009 11:25:18 PM 240 Views
You really have to be a moron to believ he didn't - 01/10/2009 06:27:04 AM 260 Views
That stupidity isn't even worthy of a reply. *NM* - 01/10/2009 04:21:35 PM 235 Views
Wow, way to make up 'facts' - 30/09/2009 11:23:13 PM 464 Views
Do you actually READ any of the articles??? - 01/10/2009 12:06:54 AM 251 Views
I did and I just went and re-read that one to be sure - 01/10/2009 12:44:46 AM 421 Views
~nods~ *NM* - 29/09/2009 07:32:29 PM 234 Views
It's not the first time, but I agree. - 29/09/2009 07:44:06 PM 361 Views
Way to go for a straw man - 29/09/2009 07:45:44 PM 421 Views
I agree that he is most definitely not a pedophile - 29/09/2009 07:50:23 PM 480 Views
As to your question, I have no idea - 29/09/2009 07:59:43 PM 478 Views
That is not what staute of limitations is - 29/09/2009 07:52:32 PM 247 Views
Yes - 29/09/2009 08:00:49 PM 281 Views
Re: Yes - 29/09/2009 08:13:24 PM 411 Views
I prefer the Tin Man myself - 29/09/2009 07:57:07 PM 456 Views
Re: Way to go for a straw man - 30/09/2009 05:05:47 PM 369 Views
No one has excused him. But there is no point any longer in going after him. - 29/09/2009 08:15:42 PM 495 Views
i can certainly agree that it's a waste of time and resources - 29/09/2009 08:20:19 PM 248 Views
there are advantages and disadvantages to being famous - 29/09/2009 08:49:21 PM 259 Views
Agreed - I can't believe people are defending this d-bag.....amazing! *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:25:05 PM 236 Views
It is rather mind-boggling *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:29:11 PM 232 Views
well - 29/09/2009 08:34:56 PM 396 Views
I'm all for the gray and considerin both sides. - 29/09/2009 08:45:50 PM 305 Views
Ben Franklin once said - 29/09/2009 09:30:16 PM 450 Views
*snort* - 29/09/2009 10:02:13 PM 418 Views
I'd say you need to spend more time around lawyers - 29/09/2009 10:40:05 PM 357 Views
isn't he still churning out movies like crazy? - 29/09/2009 10:42:48 PM 266 Views
I've no idea - 29/09/2009 11:22:20 PM 389 Views
Exactly Nossy - 29/09/2009 09:20:14 PM 483 Views
Well it's certainly apparent you're sticking to it *NM* - 29/09/2009 09:27:48 PM 232 Views
That's always been how I am though. - 29/09/2009 09:32:30 PM 414 Views
I've decided I really don't care about this either way at all. - 29/09/2009 08:38:14 PM 341 Views
It has an effect on good cinema *NM* - 29/09/2009 08:52:58 PM 157 Views
there's been people saying he shouldn't get his Oscar for it - 29/09/2009 08:59:04 PM 240 Views
Doubtful. - 30/09/2009 02:04:52 AM 374 Views
How recent is recently? - 30/09/2009 02:22:39 AM 296 Views
There's a lot of misinformation flying around here. - 29/09/2009 11:22:29 PM 433 Views
That would be more convincing if you didn't have incorrect information yourself. - 29/09/2009 11:58:40 PM 253 Views
I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:07:43 AM 421 Views
Re: I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:28:13 AM 386 Views
Re: I just worked that out. - 30/09/2009 12:42:17 AM 364 Views
Small correction - 01/10/2009 12:15:45 AM 369 Views
Think about that one a bit - 30/09/2009 11:34:56 PM 431 Views
Add to that also - 30/09/2009 11:30:14 PM 455 Views
Excellent summary on Roman the Rapist.....good job! *NM* - 30/09/2009 01:13:35 AM 251 Views
Most impressive - 30/09/2009 01:21:42 AM 226 Views
Excellent - and done better than most of the rest of us. *NM* - 30/09/2009 03:34:11 PM 254 Views
In my opinion... - 30/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 371 Views
Can I just say... - 30/09/2009 05:54:47 PM 391 Views
The state is also a vicitm - 30/09/2009 06:17:22 PM 385 Views
Hardly, in this case - 30/09/2009 11:57:48 PM 269 Views
you know your arguments would have more merit if you had a clue what your were talking about - 01/10/2009 06:24:35 AM 245 Views
You should know what you are talking about before you post - 01/10/2009 04:18:50 PM 448 Views
OK go learn something and then come back - 01/10/2009 05:15:45 PM 420 Views
I note that you ignore the fact that I just proved you wrong... - 01/10/2009 05:27:01 PM 355 Views
no you just mistated some crap that I ignored *sigh* - 01/10/2009 06:30:03 PM 255 Views
The girl and mother requested to cut a deal, so the 13-year old wouldn't have to testify..... - 01/10/2009 04:28:49 PM 226 Views
Actually, the prosecution cut the deal - 01/10/2009 05:29:29 PM 361 Views
And the most important reason for justice... - 30/09/2009 07:43:33 PM 489 Views
Just to be clear - 30/09/2009 11:47:42 PM 455 Views
This may help some of the argument, but sadly not much - 01/10/2009 02:06:22 AM 400 Views
It's not just that he admitted to it in the plea bargain. - 01/10/2009 03:10:37 AM 451 Views
*agree* *NM* - 01/10/2009 02:36:05 PM 125 Views
Yes, looking at him very strangely.....he's jumping the shark big-time on this one! - 01/10/2009 04:31:43 PM 264 Views
Apparently you don't get the idea of honest debate - 01/10/2009 06:40:45 PM 406 Views
Good news - French government drops support for director Roman Polanski - 01/10/2009 04:46:42 PM 406 Views
Hypocrites. *NM* - 01/10/2009 05:41:34 PM 273 Views
Yeah pretty much - 01/10/2009 06:28:01 PM 283 Views
Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread - 01/10/2009 06:59:36 PM 528 Views
It was quite a valiant effort - 01/10/2009 08:30:23 PM 286 Views
Re: Well, unless I find some new facts to post - I think I'm done with this thread - 01/10/2009 08:41:01 PM 297 Views
I agree the attacks on you personally were not warranted and were out of line. - 03/10/2009 03:02:03 AM 439 Views
Please. - 05/10/2009 03:35:50 PM 446 Views
My "bottom line" on this subject: - 01/10/2009 07:21:19 PM 434 Views

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