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"...all of this operates on a principle that says that you do not take life without a good cause..." Joel Send a noteboard - 13/08/2013 08:10:28 AM

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I'm trying to give you a ~~second~~ hundredth chance at having a sane and civilized discussion on anything even vaguely touching on politics, and crap-stupid replies like the one you just wrote aren't helping. Go inflict your blather on others, they might be more tolerant during what I hope is a temporary return phase of especially unhinged ranting. Not single fucking thing you wrote made one damn bit of sense in relation to what I said, it was beyond even classic-Joel habits of carrying out one-sided tangential arguments barely related to whatever whoever you replied to said.

Since I don't particularly feel like simply ignoring everything you write and replying with insults, I suggest you try not replying to me unless you are very specifically and politely replying to my actual remarks without your customary rancid attempts at hyperbole, soapboxing, and 'deep philosophical points'.

I focused on that statement (yours) throughout my response. The only time I addressed you (and should have said, "one," because I did not mean you specifically) was in conceding a point I repeatedly conceded: Doe v. Bolton made abortion too easy. I apologize if that was offensive, but I genuinely did make every effort to be as civil as possible; in future I will try harder to emulate the example provided.

"...all of this operates on a principle that says that you do not take life without a good cause...." That principle is valid, but I respectfully submit it is not at issue; the issue is what constitutes "good cause," and often whether there IS such a cause.

EDIT: I take it back; there were TWO times I said, "you," when I should have said, "one." None of it was personally directed though, by design.

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I don't understand many things about Conservatives but one thing baffles me more than most. callandor1000 - 12/08/2013 05:39:06 AM 1651 Views

You are missing something. Dannymac - 12/08/2013 06:01:27 AM 1011 Views

Because guns would never be misused if we all had one. Joel - 12/08/2013 06:02:25 AM 955 Views

I think you're confusing "pro life" with "anti killing." Aemon - 12/08/2013 07:34:14 AM 1245 Views

*dingdingding*. We have a winner!

in addition... Avendesora - 12/08/2013 12:11:06 PM 1048 Views

Eseentially my position HyogaRott - 12/08/2013 12:26:19 PM 960 Views

So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life then? Joel - 13/08/2013 03:35:58 AM 1228 Views

It sounds like you have a very specific view of what each position constitutes. Aemon - 13/08/2013 05:20:29 AM 1187 Views

Just going by party platforms, candidate/officeholder statements and proposed/enacted law. Joel - 13/08/2013 07:58:49 AM 1000 Views

Re: It sounds like you have a very specific view of what each position constitutes. Cannoli - 14/08/2013 01:17:09 PM 1020 Views

For what it is worth, you and I are not so far apart on abortion. Joel - 14/08/2013 03:22:07 PM 1289 Views

Re: So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life then? Cannoli - 14/08/2013 12:50:07 PM 949 Views

"Love your brother as you love yourself" is about self-improvement? Joel - 14/08/2013 02:02:22 PM 1264 Views

I know right? ironclad - 12/08/2013 08:16:32 AM 1119 Views

Conversely, how can liberals be pro-abortion but anti-death penalty? Avendesora - 12/08/2013 12:28:24 PM 1131 Views

In my case, because of the areas certainty exists and those where it is impossible. Joel - 13/08/2013 04:14:15 AM 1136 Views

Well. You know where you stand. *NM* Avendesora - 13/08/2013 01:50:02 PM 532 Views

At any given moment, at least. Joel - 13/08/2013 07:01:44 PM 958 Views

Re: In my case, because of the areas certainty exists and those where it is impossible. Novo - 13/08/2013 02:01:51 PM 1059 Views

That is a very good point, too, one that had never occurred to me. Joel - 13/08/2013 06:57:34 PM 1095 Views

I'm baffled you find it bizarre honestly Isaac - 12/08/2013 04:14:01 PM 996 Views

So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life? Prevent her maiming? A childs lifelong torment? Joel - 13/08/2013 05:00:06 AM 1008 Views

Joel, I'm going to strongly suggest you don't try to discuss anything political with me Isaac - 13/08/2013 06:31:02 AM 973 Views

"...all of this operates on a principle that says that you do not take life without a good cause..." Joel - 13/08/2013 08:10:28 AM 1127 Views

You are still missing the point, but at least you're trying Isaac - 13/08/2013 06:48:34 PM 1012 Views

Abortion is "not germane" to asking how one can reconcile opposing abortion while supporting guns? Joel - 14/08/2013 12:48:21 AM 969 Views

Discussing Supreme Court rulings on abortion in detail is not *NM* Isaac - 14/08/2013 05:08:06 AM 486 Views

Not in detail, just in both citing "good cause," yet interpreting it VERY differently. Joel - 14/08/2013 05:43:50 AM 945 Views

This is mostly a US Christian Conservative obsession...not conservatism in general. *NM* Wibble - 12/08/2013 04:39:15 PM 474 Views

Keep me, O Lord, from the hands of the wicked, preserve me from the violent man Tom - 13/08/2013 03:20:24 PM 1035 Views

My biggest problem with that from a religious perspective is preempting the chance to repent. Joel - 14/08/2013 01:39:57 AM 1154 Views

*NM* everynametaken - 19/08/2013 04:12:14 PM 424 Views

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<quote id="279016">I'm trying to give you a <s>second</s> hundredth chance at having a sane and civilized discussion on anything even vaguely touching on politics, and crap-stupid replies like the one you just wrote aren't helping. Go inflict your blather on others, they might be more tolerant during what I hope is a temporary return phase of especially unhinged ranting. Not single fucking thing you wrote made one damn bit of sense in relation to what I said, it was beyond even classic-Joel habits of carrying out one-sided tangential arguments barely related to whatever whoever you replied to said.</quote>

<quote id="279016">Since I don't particularly feel like simply ignoring everything you write and replying with insults, I suggest you try not replying to me unless you are very specifically and politely replying to my *actual* remarks without your customary rancid attempts at hyperbole, soapboxing, and 'deep philosophical points'. </quote>

<quote id="279016">I focused on that statement (yours) throughout my response.  The only time I addressed you (and should have said, "one," because I did not mean you specifically) was in conceding a point I repeatedly conceded:  Doe v. Bolton made abortion too easy.  I apologize if that was offensive, but I genuinely did make every effort to be as civil as possible; in future I will try harder to emulate the example provided.</quote>

<quote id="279016">"...all of this operates on a principle that says that you do not take life without a good cause...."  That principle is valid, but I respectfully submit it is not at issue; the issue is what constitutes "good cause," and often whether there IS such a cause.</quote>

<quote id="279016">EDIT:  I take it back; there were TWO times I said, "you," when I should have said, "one."  None of it was personally directed though, by design.</quote>

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