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The short answer is you cannot; Martin stood his ground in an unprovoked attack and died for it. Joel Send a noteboard - 11/08/2013 09:01:36 PM

In the Republicans Through the Looking Glass world that somehow makes Zimmerman the martyr, if a surprisingly lively one.

The bottom line here is a black school kid was killed for the great crime of walking home from the store in a nice neighborhood. Just like a few years ago when a couple Bellaire cops followed a black guy to his parents upscale home then shot him in the back while they watched. In both cases it was inconceivable to the shooter "one of THEM" could have any legitimate reason to be in a wealthy neighborhood, so he was treated as a dangerous criminal, so resisting unprovoked physical capture "justified" shooting him.

No one but Zimmerman and Martin know everything that led to the latters death, so there was reasonable doubt for a murder charge, and manslaughter would have been far easier to prove. However, that does not mean Zimmerman is inexplicably a hero or Martin just as inexplicably a villain. Again, a black school kid was shot and killed for the great crime of walking home from a neighborhood store; while that may not be murder, it is hardly justified, let alone laudable.

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Okay, how can you use the Trayvon Martin case AGAINST the stand-your-ground laws? - 17/07/2013 10:15:55 PM 996 Views
You forgot to mention that Zimmerman didn't actaully use a stand your ground defense *NM* - 18/07/2013 02:03:51 AM 327 Views
the judge included it in the instructions to the jury - 19/07/2013 04:37:43 AM 553 Views
I love the let me say my piece then end the convesation tactic - 19/07/2013 11:50:02 AM 539 Views
Sources - 19/07/2013 12:35:39 PM 661 Views
so she did - 19/07/2013 01:08:08 PM 528 Views
um, when did the collegiate sports organization get involved in politics? - 18/07/2013 08:17:24 PM 917 Views
I imagine he meant to type NAACP. *NM* - 18/07/2013 08:25:26 PM 270 Views
It's a combination of even more guns in circulation and no duty to retreat if you feel threatened - 18/07/2013 09:13:47 PM 515 Views
blacks are incarcerated at a higher rate because they commit crime at a higher rate - 19/07/2013 04:31:06 AM 543 Views
[citation needed] - 19/07/2013 06:12:04 PM 484 Views
Don't be tedious, such a claim is unprovable but also the most logical inference - 19/07/2013 07:10:22 PM 544 Views
If logic says so, then obviously that must be the only course of action possible.... - 19/07/2013 07:44:44 PM 628 Views
Um, how'd you get that out of my remarks? - 19/07/2013 08:48:09 PM 511 Views
Honestly, I feel like we are getting into some dangerous territory here - 24/07/2013 06:25:15 PM 588 Views
I wonder what we can call the racism version of Godwinning. - 24/07/2013 07:01:20 PM 512 Views
Reductio ad Racism maybe? *NM* - 24/07/2013 08:16:28 PM 240 Views
We? I don't feel I'm in dangerous territory at all - 24/07/2013 08:10:24 PM 457 Views
lets look at your numbers becuase they are interesting - 20/07/2013 03:25:31 PM 511 Views
The short answer is you cannot; Martin stood his ground in an unprovoked attack and died for it. - 11/08/2013 09:01:36 PM 527 Views
so you are choosing to ignore the actual evidience and eye witnesses testimony? - 13/08/2013 09:04:09 PM 513 Views
What evidence and eyewitness testimony do you have in mind? - 13/08/2013 11:19:30 PM 511 Views
You really need to look up the fact since you appear to not know what it means - 14/08/2013 11:53:05 AM 480 Views
I am familiar with the definition. - 14/08/2013 01:29:28 PM 480 Views

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