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Well let's keep in mind here you don't *need* vegetables at all, no more than dairy or meat Isaac Send a noteboard - 30/07/2013 04:45:28 AM

A person needs X number of calories to keep their body warm, they need Y amount of protein to keep their muscles intact, they need Z amount of Iodine and various other micro-nutrients, and they should have a certain amount of fiber as roughage, though I believe quite a number of inorganic items would suffice. And they need oxygen and water of course. How you get these is irrelevant to your body unless the configuration results in dangerous excesses of one of the others or your intake method isn't resulting proper absorption. I don't believe any of the food groups can't be done without it might just require either taking vitamin supplements or carefully tailoring your picks from the others. Peppers and brussel sprouts and several other veggies for instance are equal or better sources of Vitamin C then oranges. Meat's a much better source of protein but there are wads of veggies with sufficient quantities in them that you needn't go heavy on the calories to hit your protein intake goal, and so on. The whole food pyramid concept and its parallels are just loose rules of thumb, especially if vitamin supplements are allowed in the game. And very loose too because 'fruits', 'vegetables', and 'grains' are very vague and arbitrary concepts compared to 'vegetation' or 'berries' or legumes etc. and I think one of the reasons we have so many hokum health fads is what we do teach people is essentially pseudo-scientific rules of thumb.

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The greatest food in human history? - 28/07/2013 05:13:31 PM 1419 Views
That would've been a rather more useful article... - 28/07/2013 06:31:01 PM 787 Views
If you are going hungry calories do matter - 28/07/2013 09:19:45 PM 719 Views
Maybe it's a bit of repression and projection onto the people who eat there? - 29/07/2013 01:36:10 AM 847 Views
He sounds like a nut. *NM* - 28/07/2013 08:29:29 PM 543 Views
unlike the people who think we should all eat food grown within 100 miles of where we live? - 28/07/2013 09:22:07 PM 820 Views
Supply issues of transportation are not entirely unjustified, though often exaggerated - 28/07/2013 10:38:04 PM 944 Views
population distrubution makes that solution unworkable - 28/07/2013 11:34:16 PM 822 Views
Since when? - 29/07/2013 05:11:52 AM 864 Views
I am all in favor os sensible thigs and try to practice them myself - 29/07/2013 01:03:45 PM 837 Views
They are nuts too. - 29/07/2013 03:30:46 PM 831 Views
My experiences with the whole organic, etc. people. - 29/07/2013 01:46:11 AM 826 Views
I thought he was being satirical. At least until I kept reading. - 29/07/2013 03:15:12 AM 790 Views
Depends on whether you live in a food desert or not. *NM* - 29/07/2013 01:10:56 PM 421 Views
fast food doesn't make you fat. To much food makes you fat - 29/07/2013 01:11:28 PM 881 Views
Too much food definitely makes you fat but in comparing apples to apples... - 29/07/2013 01:46:08 PM 880 Views
calories are calories - 29/07/2013 03:36:59 PM 899 Views
I don't agree with your subject - 29/07/2013 07:05:50 PM 988 Views
Yeah, I thought the same. Body totally contradicts subject. *NM* - 30/07/2013 02:50:59 AM 1072 Views
I was refering to weight gain not general health *NM* - 30/07/2013 05:38:15 PM 402 Views
And I still don't agree with you. - 30/07/2013 06:48:14 PM 776 Views
but you should be used to that by now *NM* - 30/07/2013 08:51:12 PM 500 Views
And I don't really see - 29/07/2013 02:55:41 PM 749 Views
Re: And I don't really see - 29/07/2013 05:29:55 PM 750 Views
Well let's keep in mind here you don't *need* vegetables at all, no more than dairy or meat - 30/07/2013 04:45:28 AM 863 Views
Not to discount the points he makes, but what I find interesting ... - 29/07/2013 03:51:59 AM 814 Views
I don't know if thinks it is OK or just acept the reality of it - 29/07/2013 01:05:52 PM 802 Views
I'm sure you could live off them for quite a while. - 29/07/2013 01:38:09 PM 863 Views
Super Size me was BS - 29/07/2013 06:23:26 PM 710 Views
I eat mostly organic, homemade, etc - 29/07/2013 07:23:02 PM 817 Views
I think most of us track costs just as a self-justification though - 29/07/2013 08:43:09 PM 887 Views
Mm, somewhat. - 29/07/2013 10:38:22 PM 869 Views
Re: Mm, somewhat. - 29/07/2013 11:34:00 PM 825 Views
I have brown eggs and free rnage chicken in mmy fridge so I am not judging - 30/07/2013 01:12:51 PM 962 Views
- 30/07/2013 06:51:11 PM 852 Views
What, you have brown eggs?! - 30/07/2013 06:56:28 PM 823 Views
I know! - 30/07/2013 07:13:31 PM 817 Views
well I don't do the shopping just the eating - 30/07/2013 08:49:51 PM 727 Views
Well, eating is my favourite part of a meal too... - 30/07/2013 10:39:22 PM 687 Views
FYI: Egg shell color is determined by the breed of the hen, not by diet or living conditions. - 01/08/2013 05:04:32 PM 827 Views
So I have learned - 01/08/2013 05:53:18 PM 971 Views
Re: bird diet - 02/08/2013 02:51:23 PM 856 Views
WTF? Kale is good. *NM* - 01/08/2013 06:31:28 PM 456 Views

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