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for me his about what will work not what is fair random thoughts Send a noteboard - 22/07/2013 06:06:13 PM

If we want to change the perception that young black males are violent then the behavior of young black males will need to change. Right or wrong people make judgments about people based on which groups they are perceived to belong to. Everyone does no matter if they want to admit it or not. As long as 6-7% of the population is committing half the violent crime it will be hard to change that. To make matters worse many none violent kids celebrate the gangster look and attitude and tie themselves closer to the idea that young black men are more likely to be violent. Of course not all or even most young black men are violent but the simple fact is people concerned when they are approached by a group of young blacks for a reason and as long as that is true perception will not change no matter how many people are called racist.

I have heard many people on tv asking what they should tell their son about keeping this from happening to them. Not once did I near the suggestion of not beating people who you think are following you.

I don't know if more can be done to right the very real wrongs of the past and I am under no delusions that things are all better now I just strongly believe the constant victim mentality and refusal to hold individuals responsible for their actions and instead seeing racism ìn is not the solution.

Obama is making things worse by making statements that imply he supports that attitude. The president in effect said he could have been the young man who was shot while beating someone. Either or he believes that despite the evidence Martin was an innocent young man gunned down for reason.

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"Trayvon Martin could have been me." President Obama - 19/07/2013 11:27:21 PM 1495 Views
My interpretation is that he's being incredibly racist...against blacks - 19/07/2013 11:52:37 PM 809 Views
I think you're right - 19/07/2013 11:54:41 PM 761 Views
From the litlle I heard on NPR I had a couple real problems with it - 20/07/2013 12:53:40 AM 783 Views
Would he just shut up about it already? *pukes a little in mouth* *NM* - 20/07/2013 04:20:07 AM 329 Views
Yeah. As someone who voted for Obama and would do so again, this is embarrassing. - 20/07/2013 10:10:53 AM 684 Views
Ditto. Except I didn't vote for him a second time. - 21/07/2013 01:34:54 AM 791 Views
Does it matter now? Martin is still dead and Zimmerman will stay free. It's over. - 20/07/2013 04:24:43 AM 685 Views
It makes a great deal of difference - 20/07/2013 04:40:55 AM 731 Views
C'mon guys. It's sounding very "I'm not a racist, I swear!" in here. - 20/07/2013 03:32:08 PM 869 Views
I can't like your reply enough. *NM* - 20/07/2013 03:42:00 PM 343 Views
"I am not a racist I swear it" is what we are reduced for not agreeing on race - 20/07/2013 04:44:52 PM 733 Views
No. As I'll say to Isaac in a minute, I'll apologize for lumping everyone in - 20/07/2013 08:06:49 PM 721 Views
for me his about what will work not what is fair - 22/07/2013 06:06:13 PM 782 Views
It has to be both. Period. Nobody will accept someone else trying to change them - 22/07/2013 07:29:15 PM 774 Views
sorry I don't see where he says a change in behaviour is part of the solution - 23/07/2013 06:29:16 PM 670 Views
He did not talk about the case - 23/07/2013 07:32:44 PM 681 Views
A touch over the top don't you think? - 20/07/2013 05:20:21 PM 704 Views
One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense - 20/07/2013 09:09:45 PM 703 Views
Re: One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense - 20/07/2013 11:53:08 PM 742 Views
As mentioned - 21/07/2013 12:18:14 AM 784 Views
Re: As mentioned - 21/07/2013 02:25:30 PM 705 Views
You just EXACTLY quoted the point I was making - 20/07/2013 06:04:25 PM 779 Views
Em... not so sure I did. - 20/07/2013 10:19:54 PM 635 Views
I think he's wrong for continuing to talk about it, and doing so in this manner - 21/07/2013 06:59:11 AM 811 Views
We will also have to agree to disagree. - 21/07/2013 10:25:13 AM 838 Views
There are more important things for him to be focusing on, I think. That said, I think you're right. *NM* - 21/07/2013 08:16:34 AM 340 Views
There will always be something "more important." *NM* - 21/07/2013 10:25:46 AM 311 Views
That's specious reasoning. - 21/07/2013 12:02:17 PM 663 Views
It is if you sidestep my point. - 21/07/2013 05:15:19 PM 636 Views
I am of two minds on the issue. *edit* - 21/07/2013 02:04:48 PM 727 Views
Well, that's good. I feel like I'm working on 3 or 4 at this point. - 21/07/2013 05:41:21 PM 758 Views
I'm one of those annoying people who corrects others with "biracial". - 22/07/2013 08:03:10 PM 789 Views
That's not appropriate. Obama identifies as black. *NM* - 23/07/2013 06:22:06 AM 368 Views
So do lots of white kids. - 23/07/2013 08:50:12 AM 627 Views
It is the truth, though. - 23/07/2013 06:30:53 PM 679 Views
I do not agree. - 23/07/2013 07:06:33 PM 711 Views
I know, and I find that weird. - 23/07/2013 12:57:39 PM 726 Views
This is a complex issue. - 23/07/2013 01:09:00 PM 635 Views
Because he looks black, he's been treated like a black person. - 23/07/2013 06:28:41 PM 631 Views
Yes - 23/07/2013 07:11:54 PM 793 Views
Perusing. - 24/07/2013 04:02:53 AM 709 Views
That makes sense. Generally, though, one should go by whatever the person in question identifies as. *NM* - 24/07/2013 06:13:28 AM 321 Views
I noticed the press wasn't aboard with idea when it came to Zimmerman - 24/07/2013 12:49:00 PM 672 Views
Which is silly, because anyone can be racist. You are right, though. *NM* - 24/07/2013 10:32:55 PM 325 Views
No, only white people can be racist. /sarcasm - 25/07/2013 04:38:13 PM 705 Views
No, not really. - 26/07/2013 07:40:45 AM 619 Views
My reply to Nossy above. - 24/07/2013 02:25:49 PM 666 Views
As always, the voice of reason when I am about to discount the US as fucking mental. *NM* - 21/07/2013 03:17:15 PM 314 Views
That's not very nice. - 21/07/2013 09:03:55 PM 722 Views
No, probably not. - 21/07/2013 10:01:36 PM 688 Views
Its unfortunate you see us the way you do - 22/07/2013 06:05:30 AM 738 Views
So Obama smoked weed, punched school bus drivers, and got arrested for theft? - 21/07/2013 05:10:26 AM 662 Views
No, but he could have. - 21/07/2013 01:08:26 PM 630 Views

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