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Re: One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense Isaac Send a noteboard - 20/07/2013 11:53:08 PM

View original postAs far as I can tell, he did not try to change the decision of the court, or use his presidential powers for anything other than hoarding the soap box. It's not a "violation" if it's nothing more than slightly uncommon.

No, he did not, had he done so we'd be holding impeachment and removal proceedings. Whether or not the president committed a crime is not under discussion, whether or not he acted unwisely, displayed prejudice, or fed into existing anger is.

Or are you arguing he served the nation better by not having said, the first time asked and never unsolicited, "This is an ongoing criminal case, it would not be proper for me to comment."?

Now you've made many points, some quite good, but the problem is they all come back to the same original screwup, speaking on the matter at all, and he hasn't acknowledged that screwup nor just let it fade out.

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"Trayvon Martin could have been me." President Obama MrFarstrider - 19/07/2013 11:27:21 PM 1647 Views
My interpretation is that he's being incredibly racist...against blacks A Deathwatch Guard - 19/07/2013 11:52:37 PM 1015 Views
I think you're right MrFarstrider - 19/07/2013 11:54:41 PM 905 Views
From the litlle I heard on NPR I had a couple real problems with it random thoughts - 20/07/2013 12:53:40 AM 971 Views
Would he just shut up about it already? *pukes a little in mouth* *NM* everynametaken - 20/07/2013 04:20:07 AM 410 Views
Yeah. As someone who voted for Obama and would do so again, this is embarrassing. Ghavrel - 20/07/2013 10:10:53 AM 834 Views
Ditto. Except I didn't vote for him a second time. everynametaken - 21/07/2013 01:34:54 AM 939 Views
Does it matter now? Martin is still dead and Zimmerman will stay free. It's over. Tom - 20/07/2013 04:24:43 AM 842 Views
It makes a great deal of difference MrFarstrider - 20/07/2013 04:40:55 AM 897 Views
C'mon guys. It's sounding very "I'm not a racist, I swear!" in here. nossy - 20/07/2013 03:32:08 PM 1027 Views
I can't like your reply enough. *NM* Rebekah - 20/07/2013 03:42:00 PM 420 Views
"I am not a racist I swear it" is what we are reduced for not agreeing on race random thoughts - 20/07/2013 04:44:52 PM 910 Views
No. As I'll say to Isaac in a minute, I'll apologize for lumping everyone in nossy - 20/07/2013 08:06:49 PM 886 Views
for me his about what will work not what is fair random thoughts - 22/07/2013 06:06:13 PM 940 Views
It has to be both. Period. Nobody will accept someone else trying to change them nossy - 22/07/2013 07:29:15 PM 963 Views
sorry I don't see where he says a change in behaviour is part of the solution random thoughts - 23/07/2013 06:29:16 PM 833 Views
He did not talk about the case nossy - 23/07/2013 07:32:44 PM 842 Views
A touch over the top don't you think? Isaac - 20/07/2013 05:20:21 PM 870 Views
One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense nossy - 20/07/2013 09:09:45 PM 872 Views
Re: One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense Isaac - 20/07/2013 11:53:08 PM 907 Views
As mentioned nossy - 21/07/2013 12:18:14 AM 937 Views
Re: As mentioned Isaac - 21/07/2013 02:25:30 PM 863 Views
You just EXACTLY quoted the point I was making MrFarstrider - 20/07/2013 06:04:25 PM 947 Views
Em... not so sure I did. nossy - 20/07/2013 10:19:54 PM 791 Views
I think he's wrong for continuing to talk about it, and doing so in this manner A Deathwatch Guard - 21/07/2013 06:59:11 AM 995 Views
We will also have to agree to disagree. nossy - 21/07/2013 10:25:13 AM 1005 Views
There are more important things for him to be focusing on, I think. That said, I think you're right. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/07/2013 08:16:34 AM 418 Views
There will always be something "more important." *NM* nossy - 21/07/2013 10:25:46 AM 388 Views
That's specious reasoning. Ghavrel - 21/07/2013 12:02:17 PM 827 Views
It is if you sidestep my point. nossy - 21/07/2013 05:15:19 PM 785 Views
I am of two minds on the issue. *edit* Avendesora - 21/07/2013 02:04:48 PM 909 Views
Well, that's good. I feel like I'm working on 3 or 4 at this point. nossy - 21/07/2013 05:41:21 PM 950 Views
People do forget that he's only half black - and more importantly, not "African American" at all. Legolas - 21/07/2013 07:08:28 PM 820 Views
I'm one of those annoying people who corrects others with "biracial". Avendesora - 22/07/2013 08:03:10 PM 932 Views
That's not appropriate. Obama identifies as black. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/07/2013 06:22:06 AM 444 Views
So do lots of white kids. nossy - 23/07/2013 08:50:12 AM 775 Views
It is the truth, though. Ghavrel - 23/07/2013 06:30:53 PM 839 Views
I do not agree. nossy - 23/07/2013 07:06:33 PM 868 Views
Because he has publicly said that he has lived the life of a black man. Ghavrel - 24/07/2013 06:12:27 AM 761 Views
I'm not saying he hasn't. In fact, I've said too many times in this thread that he has. nossy - 24/07/2013 08:21:04 AM 960 Views
Re: I'm not saying he hasn't. In fact, I've said too many times in this thread that he has. Avendesora - 24/07/2013 02:22:58 PM 895 Views
I know, and I find that weird. Avendesora - 23/07/2013 12:57:39 PM 881 Views
This is a complex issue. Avendesora - 23/07/2013 01:09:00 PM 809 Views
Because he looks black, he's been treated like a black person. Ghavrel - 23/07/2013 06:28:41 PM 795 Views
Yes nossy - 23/07/2013 07:11:54 PM 947 Views
Re: Because he looks black, he's been treated like a black person. Avendesora - 23/07/2013 11:31:03 PM 779 Views
Yes, Obama was raised by white people. Wikipedia says so, so it must be true! *NM* Macharius - 24/07/2013 04:16:31 AM 427 Views
Perusing. Avendesora - 24/07/2013 04:02:53 AM 908 Views
That makes sense. Generally, though, one should go by whatever the person in question identifies as. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/07/2013 06:13:28 AM 404 Views
I noticed the press wasn't aboard with idea when it came to Zimmerman random thoughts - 24/07/2013 12:49:00 PM 847 Views
Which is silly, because anyone can be racist. You are right, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/07/2013 10:32:55 PM 392 Views
No, only white people can be racist. /sarcasm Macharius - 25/07/2013 04:38:13 PM 871 Views
No, not really. Ghavrel - 26/07/2013 07:40:45 AM 775 Views
I've thought about this a lot recently (prejudice + power = racism). nossy - 26/07/2013 10:36:16 AM 1041 Views
so some liberal ivory tower racist redefined the word to mean they were no racist random thoughts - 26/07/2013 01:16:48 PM 852 Views
My reply to Nossy above. Avendesora - 24/07/2013 02:25:49 PM 827 Views
As always, the voice of reason when I am about to discount the US as fucking mental. *NM* ironclad - 21/07/2013 03:17:15 PM 384 Views
That's not very nice. MrFarstrider - 21/07/2013 09:03:55 PM 931 Views
No, probably not. ironclad - 21/07/2013 10:01:36 PM 845 Views
Its unfortunate you see us the way you do MrFarstrider - 22/07/2013 06:05:30 AM 886 Views
So Obama smoked weed, punched school bus drivers, and got arrested for theft? Anonymous2000 - 21/07/2013 05:10:26 AM 817 Views
No, but he could have. jh - 21/07/2013 01:08:26 PM 775 Views
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