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Re: One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense Isaac Send a noteboard - 20/07/2013 11:53:08 PM

View original postAs far as I can tell, he did not try to change the decision of the court, or use his presidential powers for anything other than hoarding the soap box. It's not a "violation" if it's nothing more than slightly uncommon.

No, he did not, had he done so we'd be holding impeachment and removal proceedings. Whether or not the president committed a crime is not under discussion, whether or not he acted unwisely, displayed prejudice, or fed into existing anger is.

Or are you arguing he served the nation better by not having said, the first time asked and never unsolicited, "This is an ongoing criminal case, it would not be proper for me to comment."?

Now you've made many points, some quite good, but the problem is they all come back to the same original screwup, speaking on the matter at all, and he hasn't acknowledged that screwup nor just let it fade out.

The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

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I think you're right - 19/07/2013 11:54:41 PM 836 Views
From the litlle I heard on NPR I had a couple real problems with it - 20/07/2013 12:53:40 AM 894 Views
Would he just shut up about it already? *pukes a little in mouth* *NM* - 20/07/2013 04:20:07 AM 371 Views
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It has to be both. Period. Nobody will accept someone else trying to change them - 22/07/2013 07:29:15 PM 895 Views
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A touch over the top don't you think? - 20/07/2013 05:20:21 PM 789 Views
One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense - 20/07/2013 09:09:45 PM 795 Views
Re: One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense - 20/07/2013 11:53:08 PM 835 Views
As mentioned - 21/07/2013 12:18:14 AM 872 Views
Re: As mentioned - 21/07/2013 02:25:30 PM 786 Views
You just EXACTLY quoted the point I was making - 20/07/2013 06:04:25 PM 871 Views
Em... not so sure I did. - 20/07/2013 10:19:54 PM 725 Views
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We will also have to agree to disagree. - 21/07/2013 10:25:13 AM 929 Views
There are more important things for him to be focusing on, I think. That said, I think you're right. *NM* - 21/07/2013 08:16:34 AM 377 Views
There will always be something "more important." *NM* - 21/07/2013 10:25:46 AM 346 Views
That's specious reasoning. - 21/07/2013 12:02:17 PM 749 Views
It is if you sidestep my point. - 21/07/2013 05:15:19 PM 718 Views
I am of two minds on the issue. *edit* - 21/07/2013 02:04:48 PM 831 Views
Well, that's good. I feel like I'm working on 3 or 4 at this point. - 21/07/2013 05:41:21 PM 845 Views
I'm one of those annoying people who corrects others with "biracial". - 22/07/2013 08:03:10 PM 870 Views
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So do lots of white kids. - 23/07/2013 08:50:12 AM 702 Views
It is the truth, though. - 23/07/2013 06:30:53 PM 759 Views
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Yes - 23/07/2013 07:11:54 PM 884 Views
Perusing. - 24/07/2013 04:02:53 AM 827 Views
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I noticed the press wasn't aboard with idea when it came to Zimmerman - 24/07/2013 12:49:00 PM 763 Views
Which is silly, because anyone can be racist. You are right, though. *NM* - 24/07/2013 10:32:55 PM 361 Views
No, only white people can be racist. /sarcasm - 25/07/2013 04:38:13 PM 802 Views
No, not really. - 26/07/2013 07:40:45 AM 702 Views
My reply to Nossy above. - 24/07/2013 02:25:49 PM 750 Views
As always, the voice of reason when I am about to discount the US as fucking mental. *NM* - 21/07/2013 03:17:15 PM 350 Views
That's not very nice. - 21/07/2013 09:03:55 PM 851 Views
No, probably not. - 21/07/2013 10:01:36 PM 774 Views
Its unfortunate you see us the way you do - 22/07/2013 06:05:30 AM 816 Views
So Obama smoked weed, punched school bus drivers, and got arrested for theft? - 21/07/2013 05:10:26 AM 747 Views
No, but he could have. - 21/07/2013 01:08:26 PM 703 Views

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