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A touch over the top don't you think? Isaac Send a noteboard - 20/07/2013 05:20:21 PM

There's not that many remarks in this thread and most focused strictly on the President's breaking of custom to discuss a criminal trial that has no connection to him or to a legitimate public figure like a senator caught taking bribes or a CEO caught embezzling pensions. He is our president, and also a lawyer, he should have known to have stuck with the customary line, the one he has usually used, "This is an ongoing criminal case, it wouldn't be proper for me to comment". For violating that, he, the man in charge of enforcing our laws and appointing our senior judges, deserves severe criticism, regardless of his motives.

If there were remarks in here you fear border on racism, call the speaker out and say why, what you did instead, and it was grossly unfair, was to label everyone who posted above you a racist. There is already a disgustingly excessive habit of people crying racism any time this president is criticized and it is an insult to the very notion of open, reasoned debate.

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