My understanding is that they haven't forfeited the SYG option, just not used it yet.
HyogaRott Send a noteboard - 20/07/2013 04:03:19 AM
I'm just unsure if the attorneys fees & court cost restitution could be applied as punitive for the criminal case.
I understand why they chose not to attempt a stand your ground hearing in the politically charged atmosphere pre-trial. I doubt there was any way they could have won even with hi-def video evidence and a signed letter of intent from Martin. Judges are notoriously unwilling to stick there necks out and make such rulings.
Okay, how can you use the Trayvon Martin case AGAINST the stand-your-ground laws?
- 17/07/2013 10:15:55 PM
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Please, not another thread about this. There's already one that is very much active *NM*
- 17/07/2013 10:44:26 PM
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You forgot to mention that Zimmerman didn't actaully use a stand your ground defense *NM*
- 18/07/2013 02:03:51 AM
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+1 - The Zimmerman trial had absolutely nothing to do with the FL Stand Your Ground law. *NM*
- 18/07/2013 04:06:28 AM
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the judge included it in the instructions to the jury
- 19/07/2013 04:37:43 AM
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Jury instructions are standardized and were formulated by the Florida Supreme Court *NM*
- 19/07/2013 06:02:41 PM
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um, when did the collegiate sports organization get involved in politics?
- 18/07/2013 08:17:24 PM
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It's a combination of even more guns in circulation and no duty to retreat if you feel threatened
- 18/07/2013 09:13:47 PM
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blacks are incarcerated at a higher rate because they commit crime at a higher rate
- 19/07/2013 04:31:06 AM
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[citation needed]
- 19/07/2013 06:12:04 PM
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Don't be tedious, such a claim is unprovable but also the most logical inference
- 19/07/2013 07:10:22 PM
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If logic says so, then obviously that must be the only course of action possible....
- 19/07/2013 07:44:44 PM
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Um, how'd you get that out of my remarks?
- 19/07/2013 08:48:09 PM
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Honestly, I feel like we are getting into some dangerous territory here
- 24/07/2013 06:25:15 PM
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I wonder what we can call the racism version of Godwinning.
- 24/07/2013 07:01:20 PM
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Yeah, I asked that question on Facebook recently: Ad genum (as opposed to ad hominem.)
- 13/08/2013 11:34:28 PM
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SYG really only introduces one new thing to self defense assertions, civil immunity.
- 19/07/2013 04:07:16 PM
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I'm pretty sure bypassing a SYG hearing leaves you open to civil suit, and that's probably proper
- 19/07/2013 06:51:38 PM
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My understanding is that they haven't forfeited the SYG option, just not used it yet.
- 20/07/2013 04:03:19 AM
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I really have no idea, I'm sure others much better qualified will research it
- 20/07/2013 05:24:38 AM
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The short answer is you cannot; Martin stood his ground in an unprovoked attack and died for it.
- 11/08/2013 09:01:36 PM
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so you are choosing to ignore the actual evidience and eye witnesses testimony?
- 13/08/2013 09:04:09 PM
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What evidence and eyewitness testimony do you have in mind?
- 13/08/2013 11:19:30 PM
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You really need to look up the fact since you appear to not know what it means
- 14/08/2013 11:53:05 AM
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