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Yes, and I also eat babies for breakfast and make sure I kick at least one puppy a day *facepalm* Jay Sherman Send a noteboard - 16/07/2013 07:13:11 PM

It should be self-evident that if you are going to use deadly force to kill someone and claim self-defense, you need to prove that your life was actually in danger. Otherwise you are just killing indiscriminately and hoping for just such an outcome as Zimmerman has been afforded by his trial. A scraped head, a bloody nose, and injured pride are not grounds for justifiable homicide in any way, shape or form. Zimmerman admits to shooting Martin, of this at least there is no doubt. The problem comes with the series of assumptions that Zimmerman makes and the lies he concocts in order to avoid prosecution which place the proof on the deceased rather than the killer to show that events did not transpire as reported. As the old saying goes, "Dead men tell no tales"...

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Zimmerman = Not Guilty - 14/07/2013 04:04:07 AM 1925 Views
Any charge, other than stupidity, was rediculous. *NM* - 14/07/2013 04:24:09 AM 570 Views
Stupidity+Death= Manslaughter *NM* - 14/07/2013 05:27:39 AM 534 Views
But hey... - 14/07/2013 05:35:11 AM 1146 Views
And THAT is the scary precendent this case sets for the populace - 14/07/2013 05:28:03 PM 1284 Views
Oh puhleeze... can you get any more rediculous? *NM* - 14/07/2013 07:22:52 PM 692 Views
HyogaRott baby, you are hurting me here. Can you please stop this? - 14/07/2013 11:29:00 PM 1028 Views
If inline spellcheck doesn't catch it, I probably won't either. - 15/07/2013 06:29:29 AM 982 Views
Re: And THAT is the scary precendent this case sets for the populace - 14/07/2013 07:32:26 PM 1080 Views
you really are small minded little bigot - 15/07/2013 03:57:01 AM 1050 Views
+1 - Seriously has imlad always been this nuts? *NM* - 15/07/2013 04:32:33 AM 596 Views
Your reply is partisan and obnoxious. - 15/07/2013 02:15:13 PM 1054 Views
So it was okay that he was on top of a guy, pounding his head into the pavement? - 14/07/2013 06:45:17 PM 1004 Views
If you can believe Zimmerman's side of the story is 100% truth, I have a bridge for sale... - 15/07/2013 05:35:08 PM 1145 Views
do you have actual evidence to support zimmerman lied? *NM* - 16/07/2013 05:43:42 PM 573 Views
Sure - 16/07/2013 06:49:20 PM 932 Views
Re: Sure - 16/07/2013 07:53:27 PM 1093 Views
Re: Sure - 16/07/2013 10:07:13 PM 1142 Views
Re: Sure - 17/07/2013 03:26:15 AM 1072 Views
Silly post - following someone around is not legal justification for physical assault. - 15/07/2013 12:47:54 AM 945 Views
And lying about self-defense should not be grounds for acquittal of all charges, but there you go *NM* - 15/07/2013 05:43:15 PM 638 Views
I think it all really has to do with reasonable doubt - 16/07/2013 01:08:24 PM 1038 Views
The burden of proof should have been on the shooter to prove lethal force was necessary - 16/07/2013 06:52:17 PM 898 Views
So, you prefer "guilty until proven innocent"? - 16/07/2013 06:54:56 PM 916 Views
Yes, and I also eat babies for breakfast and make sure I kick at least one puppy a day *facepalm* - 16/07/2013 07:13:11 PM 1160 Views
Nope, you have the US legal system COMPLETELY backwards. *NM* - 16/07/2013 07:54:51 PM 597 Views
No. You are completely wrong. - 16/07/2013 08:07:25 PM 918 Views
The kid decided to beat a man who had a gun and got shot for it - 15/07/2013 03:46:38 AM 1065 Views
In a sane world, here is how their interaction plays out - 15/07/2013 05:44:26 PM 988 Views
Yes. And the fact that he didn't simply ask him what he was doing, tells me he was racial profiling - 15/07/2013 08:59:41 PM 985 Views
The only way that statement makes sense is if it is sarcasm - 16/07/2013 12:46:59 PM 919 Views
And tomorrow I get to preach about the Good Samaritan. - 14/07/2013 05:26:50 AM 1204 Views
Where's your forgiveness?? Judge not lest ye be judged. - 14/07/2013 07:10:14 PM 967 Views
Did I say a thing about Zimmerman? No. - 14/07/2013 08:44:26 PM 1114 Views
Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. Which neighborhood watch were you referring to? - 15/07/2013 12:46:44 AM 1098 Views
Float your concept of grace in front of your priest sometime. - 15/07/2013 04:31:34 AM 960 Views
Danny... - 15/07/2013 01:32:03 PM 1020 Views
You'd think the rain of venom in here would make everyone's soapbox too slippery to stand on - 15/07/2013 01:05:41 PM 997 Views
+1 *NM* - 15/07/2013 06:40:15 PM 619 Views
would that be true for most of politics as well? *NM* - 16/07/2013 12:58:33 PM 600 Views
Depends on the case, but those aren't individual life and death criminal trials - 16/07/2013 01:52:00 PM 903 Views
when the president gets involved it is safe to polotics are at play. - 16/07/2013 06:23:54 PM 969 Views
That's not an unfair remark but it justifies criticizing him, not also getting involved in the case - 16/07/2013 06:59:53 PM 988 Views
When a case shows glaring holes in the law, it should by nature cause those laws to be reconsidered - 16/07/2013 07:18:57 PM 1058 Views
I'm not sure what those 'glaring holes' are, but a specific person shouldn't be needed to show them - 16/07/2013 08:18:38 PM 977 Views
It is a bit difficult to not use the case when the specificity of the case is the problem.... - 16/07/2013 11:06:59 PM 1059 Views
I sympathize with that but I think it remains a moral necessity to do so - 17/07/2013 12:14:39 AM 1121 Views
Re: I sympathize with that but I think it remains a moral necessity to do so - 17/07/2013 05:29:56 PM 1100 Views
I think you've over-personalized this case - 17/07/2013 08:00:50 PM 1083 Views
I think this case is simply the closest example at hand of a perceived lack of justice - 17/07/2013 10:34:38 PM 1080 Views
Re: I think this case is simply the closest example at hand of a perceived lack of justice - 18/07/2013 01:39:17 AM 1241 Views
Jury instructions - 18/07/2013 04:12:29 AM 1167 Views
Jury Instructions 2 - 18/07/2013 06:22:33 PM 1025 Views
I just want to comment on two points from your reply - 19/07/2013 09:47:06 PM 926 Views
I'm pretty throughly exhausted of this - 19/07/2013 10:46:22 PM 1048 Views
Nice. - 16/07/2013 09:01:50 PM 1121 Views
Thanks - 16/07/2013 09:48:00 PM 966 Views
Well said. - 17/07/2013 02:25:36 PM 1122 Views
it is possible to discuss a case based on what the evidence shows - 17/07/2013 06:03:05 PM 1078 Views
Of course it is possible, one just fails to see how it can serve any good end - 17/07/2013 09:43:02 PM 968 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 18/07/2013 02:08:25 AM 645 Views
That just brings us full circle to my orignal reply to you - 18/07/2013 02:52:15 AM 1030 Views
Re: That just brings us full circle to my orignal reply to you - 18/07/2013 04:09:51 AM 1126 Views
are agree with your general concept - 18/07/2013 05:20:41 PM 1257 Views
Good. - 15/07/2013 02:11:12 PM 940 Views
Perhaps one day black people will have the same rights as whites in the US - 15/07/2013 05:30:00 PM 1108 Views
Congratulations on making one of the dumbest statemets of the year. *NM* - 15/07/2013 09:00:46 PM 633 Views
You have tried retroatcively making Martin a criminal here, despite him doing nothing wrong - 15/07/2013 10:52:32 PM 995 Views
So you support attacking creepy crackers who you think are following you? - 16/07/2013 12:56:52 PM 984 Views
The law suggests that if I fear for my safety, I am justified in attacking first in self-defense - 18/07/2013 11:00:58 PM 1102 Views
there is zero evidience to support that assumption - 19/07/2013 04:25:15 AM 943 Views
Let's see - Martin was using drugs..... - 16/07/2013 04:56:13 PM 972 Views
Does that mean he should have been hunted down and shot? *NM* - 16/07/2013 05:22:43 PM 581 Views
He wasn't, so your question is irrelevant. - 16/07/2013 05:37:27 PM 907 Views

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