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I'm not sure how Isaac Send a noteboard - 28/04/2013 02:46:00 PM

I'm sure I have a pedantic streak but it isn't in those remarks.


View original postYou're right; the sentence in question adheres to grammatical convention sufficiently to be legible. It is, however, incredibly absurd to say that the Founding Fathers would have opposed background checks because they go against the presumption of innocence in criminal affairs.

That wasn't my point, and I don't know if you missed it or what. The point was his remarks weren't incomprehensible to me even though I didn't entirely agree, nor did it come off as some drooling rant, and that's how you phrased your reply. You crossed into pedantic by pointing out it wasn't in the constitution in spite of knowing that the entirety of judiciary and legislator as well as the population as a whole considers it to be the case. That's the bit that was pedantic. What makes it decidedly unjustified is that earlier 'incomprehensible' remark, because while Invasion of Privacy without reasonable cause is a separate thing from Presumption of Innocence, the two have a very distinct conceptual connection, bad phrasing perhaps by him but not incomprehensible. The discussion of when it is acceptable to impinge on someone's various freedoms is ancient and frequently revolves around how urgent or grave the need is and how severe the intrusion is and how significant the evidence is, that's very tied to the same core concept of innocent till proven guilty and escalating standards of evidence based on severity of the accusation. These aren't alien or perpendicular concepts.


View original postYou do tone argument a lot, and you do it rather well, but it's a rather silly approach when it's all you ever do. And it's rapidly approaching all you ever do in your replies to me.

We've exchanged dozen of replies since the last time this came up, and you're a repeat offender with the poster here, specifically on legal matters. It isn't like I jump all over you every single post or even every time you insult someone, I didn't call you out on that one I just linked and it is arguably worse. I hate these endless gun threads and made no secret of it, if people are going to insist on trying to 'have a civil discussion about reasonable measures' in spite of vast evidence that civility will evaporate in such conversations rapidly, I don't really feel much obligation to hold my tongue when people stop being civil. You're hardly the only person I've snapped at for their tone. I do regret if I've singled you at all, or seemed to, or even possibly gotten excessive or hypocritical about it, but I don't think this particular occasion fits those criteria.

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