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the fact that Obama can get a bil through the senate when it has 90% support show a fialure ot lead random thoughts Send a noteboard - 23/04/2013 04:29:07 AM

Make all of the excuses for him you like. If he could get more than luke warm support for his ideas he could get them passedfillibuster or no fillibuster. If he can't get through the senate what were the chances it would make it through the House? Around zero? So what was the point? politcal grandstanding and readmeat for a base that is more interested in finding things to be upset about than they are in solutions. If the media wasn't his strongest supporters his prefernce to fail and score politcal instead of leading might actaully hurt him.

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Just to be clear... wooly - 20/04/2013 03:32:07 AM 1090 Views
Of course it is A Deathwatch Guard - 20/04/2013 04:18:27 AM 518 Views
But, they is us wooly - 23/04/2013 03:13:27 AM 682 Views
First of all, I don't believe that 90% of the population support it A Deathwatch Guard - 23/04/2013 04:55:02 AM 719 Views
Just to be clear it is possible to support freedom of the press &support censorship of the internet HyogaRott - 20/04/2013 05:03:26 AM 642 Views
ROFL *NM* Isaac - 20/04/2013 05:21:11 AM 275 Views
Bazinga! Well done..... *NM* Anonymous2000 - 21/04/2013 03:24:34 PM 272 Views
Well played wooly - 23/04/2013 03:20:34 AM 782 Views
No you really can't HyogaRott - 23/04/2013 05:59:04 PM 679 Views
That's the most amusingly incomprehensible attempt at constitutional analysis I've read in a while. *NM* Ghavrel - 26/04/2013 10:47:18 AM 272 Views
How so? It made sense to me Isaac - 26/04/2013 03:10:11 PM 522 Views
Presumption of innocence isn't part of the constitution. Ghavrel - 26/04/2013 09:30:17 PM 554 Views
I think that's being a bit pedantic, to be kind Isaac - 26/04/2013 11:13:33 PM 765 Views
So is your post. Ghavrel - 28/04/2013 08:41:16 AM 536 Views
I'm not sure how Isaac - 28/04/2013 02:46:00 PM 605 Views
I am not trying to pick a fight with you or anyone else. I'm very curious. Sareitha Sedai - 29/04/2013 02:34:19 PM 577 Views
yes *NM* Roland00 - 20/04/2013 06:26:27 AM 346 Views
Same. Willing to hear counterarguments, though. *NM* Dan - 21/04/2013 02:59:33 PM 330 Views
about 90% of the country agrees with that but still Obama can't close the deal. random thoughts - 21/04/2013 04:24:15 PM 749 Views
the fact that 90% support it should be obvious that most see it as *a* solution moondog - 22/04/2013 05:32:42 PM 534 Views
the fact that Obama can get a bil through the senate when it has 90% support show a fialure ot lead random thoughts - 23/04/2013 04:29:07 AM 637 Views
the fact that Obama can get a bil through the senate when it has 90% support show a fialure ot lead random thoughts - 23/04/2013 04:29:13 AM 633 Views
Yep wooly - 23/04/2013 03:47:12 AM 754 Views
90% also believes constanly blaiming others for your own failure is a sign of weakness random thoughts - 23/04/2013 04:55:53 AM 635 Views
You're smarter than this wooly - 23/04/2013 06:41:09 AM 538 Views
but is wasn't heavily favored it just polls well random thoughts - 24/04/2013 05:56:41 PM 634 Views
..and that is where the misinformation comes into play HyogaRott - 24/04/2013 07:35:51 PM 589 Views
And that reply makes my point random thoughts - 26/04/2013 05:49:53 PM 660 Views
And that reply makes my point random thoughts - 26/04/2013 05:49:53 PM 664 Views
The point is that background checks already exist on every commercial firearm transaction. HyogaRott - 27/04/2013 05:16:41 AM 684 Views
but we all know there is no correlation between having a gun and shooting someone with it moondog - 22/04/2013 05:30:12 PM 625 Views
I wonder which other Constitutional rights should require a background check to excercise? *NM* HyogaRott - 22/04/2013 08:56:15 PM 240 Views
How about just the ones that can have potentially lethal consequences for other citizens? wooly - 23/04/2013 03:56:25 AM 652 Views
freedom os speech can be a dangerous thing random thoughts - 23/04/2013 04:58:02 AM 565 Views
As you know nossy - 28/04/2013 12:11:04 PM 625 Views
Why yes, yes I do... HyogaRott - 23/04/2013 05:43:29 PM 668 Views
I agree nossy - 28/04/2013 12:55:13 PM 741 Views
Re: I agree Isaac - 05/05/2013 11:24:37 AM 629 Views
Just to be clear: another hypocrisy of the right wing imlad - 04/05/2013 06:37:31 PM 768 Views
When posting into dead threads it helps to A) Be on topic or B) Make intelligent points Isaac - 04/05/2013 08:08:46 PM 4820 Views
That's not true at all. nossy - 05/05/2013 09:45:17 AM 516 Views
*I* have a complex about dead threads? Isaac - 05/05/2013 10:36:15 AM 634 Views
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