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View original postIt is still too cold to put seeds in the ground where I am, but I have planning my garden since January.


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View original postFrost date is early May round here, but I've got a cold frame greenhouse out back and a number of raised beds I've translucent tarps and pipes I can toss over to get them warmer sooner and lets me keep things going longer. Starting seeds in the house is always a bit tricky though, window ledges are prime real estate to my cats and they also tend to gnaw or dig on plants and soil in the house.


View original postLast frost for us is mid-late May. I usually get started plants from the local farmer's market, but I want to try different varieties of tomatoes. The ones that are available here a tasty for hot house tomatoes, but I want ones that taste like the ones grandpa used to grow. The ones I've tried haven't done well. Even the grafted ones were pitiful. I chalk it up to user error.

I've always had embarrassing yields compared to my uncle with tomatoes, he lives in the same zone as me too, but I still grow more than I need. I've been doing more square-foot gardening raise bed stuff in recent years and that's helped but not as much as advertised, though it is God Awful easier to weed, the soil is so friable compared to the local stuff. My grandfather replication issue is rhubarb, it just never seems to come out the way I remember.


View original postI would love to start a lot of stuff inside, but I'm on batteries off the grid, and I'm looking for a super efficient full-spectrum lighting system. I'm glad that it seems the "long dark" is over, and the PV arrays are generating more power these days, I still don't want anything that uses more than 50 watts. Maybe I could do artificial lighting just to extend daylight hours? I don't know. I still have research to do. I should have paid more attention to the horticulturists at my old job. I am sending my soil away to be tested as well.

Definitely LED lighting then, I've been converting the house to it for a while now and I love the bright-whiteness of them, but you can get them all red, red-blue, tailored for photosynthesis. You won't get much heat off them though, normally a big plus for efficiency but if you're like me and keep the house cooler you might need to do a grow tent over them and a pan of hot water, if you're non-electric stove or water heater. I'm not really sure, in artificial lighting context, if it's better to use them to extend lighting hours or simply ratchet up brightness, if you're using red/blue only light you can get away with that and if you can run it during your own peak solar hours it's probably better. You could probably also do a parabolic light stand, if you haven't already it's pretty easy to muck one up. Either the classic half-cylinder with the fluorescent tube in it or even a dish or cocked half cylinder bouncing sunlight down.


View original postI would love to do a cold frame outside, I have some old single-paned windows that could easily be utilized. As far as creatures gnawing plants, I would have to lock down any greenhouse so the chickens can't get at it. This time of year they are crazy for anything that hints at being green.

My only pest issues are deer and japanese beetles, and while my cats hang out in the greenhouse a lot I've never even run into one of the racoons in there and it's right next to one of the favorite hangouts, my goldfish pond, so I've never ratcheted up security besides in regards to wind. I originally just nailed some boards together as a doorway and hung a pair of plastic sheets but after I replaced the main cover with a translucent tarp I did the same for the door, I just have it bungied in place when not wandering in and out and hung up like a shower curtain.

Never raised chickens, though I've flock of turkey that wanders by for a week or so about once a year, always wanted to try permaculture though and chickens seem to be the popular animal add in. Supposed to be a good compost additive but I always worry about the temperature inside my heaps not being hot enough.


View original postMy fruit trees (zone 4 and 5a peaches, cherries, pears, and plums) and strawberry (v: Sparkle) plants should be arriving mid April. It'll be several years before I get enough to preserve, but it's exciting. If I get to my in-laws early enough, there's a woman who specializes in old-timey tomato varieties. I am keeping my fingers crossed. I'm thinking about keeping bees too, but one step at a time.

Zone 6-ish, Erie lakeshore east stretch, odd-weather lake effect stuff. I should break down and grow grapes, it's the main agricultural product of my township but I've been doing strawberries and rhubarb and waiting with patient rage for my blueberries to finally grow or my dwarf apricot, though at least the blueberries most recent disappointing growth spurt I can partially blame on my new giant six-toed mutant cat Flax, I'd made the soil sandier and he seemed to think it made a good catbox.

I gather blue mason bees are in vogue for straight pollinators right now, supposed to be real easy to keep, better adapted for cold, etc. Never tried bees before, get a fair few of them around anyway.

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