i guess in this case "more concrete" means "not just swept under the rug anymore"
moondog Send a noteboard - 06/02/2013 11:38:52 PM
I frankly find this pretty damn disrespectful to the audience, "Here's a map". There's nothing concrete about this, data on deaths rate is is freely available and it's just a death count by county, a couple months isn't enough time to know if the rate has gone up or down, and a map is hardly necessary to discuss that. How would me putting up a map of abortions by place or suicides by place add to those conversations? This isn't a high resolution freeway map we can use to see which exits and stretches have abnormal crash rates, it's a superficial and useless construct that might as well be a population density map.
It would be more useful if it was regional block map showing gun deaths relative to population and racked up the deaths over a couple decades rather than a couple of months.
It would be more useful if it was regional block map showing gun deaths relative to population and racked up the deaths over a couple decades rather than a couple of months.
excluding suicides we still had over 15,000 gun deaths in 2012. at a rate of over 40 per day, it's quite easy to just not notice how many people die every single day in this country. when i say "more concrete" i mean a visual representation of what exactly having more guns than anyone, anywhere, means on a day to day basis.
sure, from a statistical standpoint this map tool does nothing to break down trends or motivations, even if you read through all 1600+ articles linked to each body in the chart. having all of the deaths represented like this in front of you makes it a bit harder to just pretend that we don't have a real problem with gun violence in this country. and that is the reason i call it more concrete.
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1600 gun deaths and counting since Newtown massacre
- 06/02/2013 05:40:29 PM
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That is a tragic number but the laws they are proposing would have stopped very few of those deaths
- 06/02/2013 05:53:48 PM
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how many responsible owners are going to be selling out of the trunk of their car?
- 06/02/2013 06:02:43 PM
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You will never stop or reduce violence. Ever
- 06/02/2013 09:01:15 PM
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Perhaps, but we can still limit the damage done by controlling access to guns. *NM*
- 06/02/2013 10:38:06 PM
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There's a gigantic difference between the "stop" and the "reduce" you so casually equate. *NM*
- 06/02/2013 11:21:31 PM
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Is there? Without guns the rate of violence will fall heavily?
- 06/02/2013 11:35:27 PM
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Yes, there is.
- 06/02/2013 11:40:57 PM
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there are ways to reduce the violence but new guns laws are not one those ways
- 07/02/2013 04:29:01 AM
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best that we enforce the current laws then, as obama has directed in his executive orders
- 08/02/2013 05:59:22 PM
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violence, probably not as much as we would like. dead by gunshot? most assuredly so
- 06/02/2013 11:45:39 PM
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that is true but that is no excuse for feel good laws that do nothing but restrict rights
- 07/02/2013 04:24:34 AM
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I like how you say 'something more concrete' to describe 'nothing new'
- 06/02/2013 10:38:35 PM
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i guess in this case "more concrete" means "not just swept under the rug anymore"
- 06/02/2013 11:38:52 PM
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I don't believe it has ever been swept under the rug in our lifetimes
- 07/02/2013 12:40:55 AM
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we will have to continue to agree to disagree then
- 08/02/2013 06:06:38 PM
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This has more to do with resenting all the "...and another thing!" threads on the subject of late.
- 09/02/2013 12:18:27 AM
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