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i think you're missing a piece of the puzzle moondog Send a noteboard - 07/01/2013 07:23:02 PM
sorry, i don't think "let's just give up" is a viable strategy for preventing gun violence....


'Let's not give up' always sounds like a good cheer unless the cause sucks or is actually hopeless. I happen to think both are true, sucky and hopeless, but you're making an emotional appeal while using the term 'viable', like 'practical', when I can think of few things further from practical then seizing existing firearms. There are more guns then cars and they're very easily concealed on someone's property even if we were willing to turn out the police and/or military to search everyone's house one by one in detail. There is such a thing as realism, even if I thought we should confiscate all firearms I can barely imagine the sort of manpower we'd need to seize them all or how many billions of dollars would be needed to do a 'buy back' for those willing or how much more for those searches. Prohibitions have not worked very well in this country.


in each country which has enacted stronger controls, a buy back was exactly what they did first before applying the related laws. buy backs work, whether you like them or not. local law enforcement around the country have been successfully using a buy back program for quite some time, there is no reason why this could not be done on a national scale.

also, i would argue that previous prohibitions have not worked in the US because they have not been done very thoughtfully. the "war on drugs" being one of the biggest prohibition failures in our history but yet we keep on trying the same failed policies and expecting different results. i don't think it's fair to keep throwing our hands up after each gun death and saying "we can't do anything about it". arming everyone will never be the correct solution.
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Poll: 54 percent view NRA favorably - 28/12/2012 04:23:35 AM 973 Views
Hahahaha. That is full of shit. OMG. Thanks for the laughs. *NM* - 28/12/2012 06:30:08 AM 407 Views
I have this to say about that... - 28/12/2012 07:10:52 AM 771 Views
That was rather long but probably one of the best things I've read this year - 28/12/2012 02:31:24 PM 549 Views
Excellent article by a knowledgable individual armed with facts. *NM* - 28/12/2012 04:36:23 PM 271 Views
See my response to Novo. - 28/12/2012 06:28:00 PM 639 Views
please cite the errors, manipulations, or lies. - 28/12/2012 09:30:28 PM 594 Views
Great read, thanks for posting! *NM* - 28/12/2012 05:52:29 PM 278 Views
Thanks for posting that, I enjoyed it a lot - 29/12/2012 01:36:33 AM 559 Views
his premise is "there's already too many guns so why bother trying anything at all now" - 07/01/2013 06:27:20 PM 624 Views
I don't think that's his sole premise but it's also quite true - 07/01/2013 07:05:20 PM 652 Views
i think you're missing a piece of the puzzle - 07/01/2013 07:23:02 PM 576 Views
I'm not missing it, I just don't think it's wise or especially moral - 07/01/2013 09:36:05 PM 617 Views
moral has nothing to do with it, imho - 07/01/2013 11:26:00 PM 668 Views
Re: moral has nothing to do with it, imho - 08/01/2013 05:40:46 AM 533 Views
last thoughts..... - 08/01/2013 05:18:35 PM 556 Views
Well I was referring more to the timing of collecting data. - 29/12/2012 04:28:01 AM 747 Views
Is that the same Gallup that said 54% of America would vote Romney? - 28/12/2012 06:15:43 PM 676 Views
Once again data is data.....feel free to cite other polling data. *NM* - 28/12/2012 06:38:29 PM 288 Views

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