The 2 things you attempted to "cite" were absolute nonsense and proved nothing.
HyogaRott Send a noteboard - 31/12/2012 06:00:00 PM
I think I'm tempted to just automatically link that into all gun-control talks and refuse to discuss anything further till they've read it, because I really haven't seen let alone typed anything so logical, accurate, comprehensive, and well said on the subject. Thanks for the link.
I read it a week or two ago, so will continue.
A concealed carry instructor wrote a long blog post manipulating the historical record to justify unrestricted gun access, and people who already agreed with him say they still do: Wow. That does not make him accurate, Cicero or anything but a biased activist his fellows support.It is a long piece, and I do not feel like digging through all of its tortured "logic" like I did a week or two ago; once was more than sufficient.
The China incident was used in the article to illustrate that guns are not needed to create an "atrocity" thus restricting them does not prevent one. I have no idea what you were trying to illustrate.
Your reasoning behind the importance of an off-duty cop being the one to stop a mall shooting as opposed to a civilian also escapes me as the quality of training received by police officers and their qualitative performance in stress situations was discussed in the article. The point was that the shooting was stopped by someone who happened to be at the location when the shooting began, as opposed to the body count that would have resulted from the inevitable delay before a uniformed police response could have arrived.
Keep trying
Poll: 54 percent view NRA favorably
- 28/12/2012 04:23:35 AM
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Hahahaha. That is full of shit. OMG. Thanks for the laughs. *NM*
- 28/12/2012 06:30:08 AM
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I have this to say about that...
- 28/12/2012 07:10:52 AM
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That was rather long but probably one of the best things I've read this year
- 28/12/2012 02:31:24 PM
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Excellent article by a knowledgable individual armed with facts. *NM*
- 28/12/2012 04:36:23 PM
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See my response to Novo.
- 28/12/2012 06:28:00 PM
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please cite the errors, manipulations, or lies.
- 28/12/2012 09:30:28 PM
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I cited two in response to her, and those were just the ones I remember off the top of my head.
- 28/12/2012 11:07:36 PM
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If you can't remember them, then don't claim them *NM*
- 29/12/2012 03:08:08 AM
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Two just from memory is enough to substantiate my claim.
- 29/12/2012 03:35:49 AM
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'Substantiate your claim'? I don't think you're lying, I just don't feel any reason to be swayed...
- 29/12/2012 04:00:10 AM
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The 2 things you attempted to "cite" were absolute nonsense and proved nothing.
- 31/12/2012 06:00:00 PM
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Re: I have this to say about that...
- 28/12/2012 05:23:44 PM
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Never point a gun at anything you are not going to shoot, nor shoot anything you do not mean to kill
- 28/12/2012 06:13:20 PM
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Still losing the gun debate and it's driving you a little crazy isn't it! 
- 28/12/2012 06:40:51 PM
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- 28/12/2012 06:40:51 PM
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Gallup: 58% want more gun control; Ipsos: 70% want more gun control, 90% want background checks.
- 28/12/2012 10:29:50 PM
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..and 100% want to win the lottery, but it isn't going to happen.
- 05/01/2013 02:17:50 PM
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Re: I have this to say about that...Actually, modern military weapons are constructed to wound
- 29/12/2012 08:43:49 PM
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Yeah, uh, no. Not until you do some serious background checks on teachers.
- 29/12/2012 01:00:20 AM
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GOP estimates of teacher competence have increased to the point of giving them concealed guns.
- 29/12/2012 02:36:08 AM
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You know the GOP is unlikely to object to background check on teachers, the unions might
- 29/12/2012 02:56:06 AM
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his premise is "there's already too many guns so why bother trying anything at all now"
- 07/01/2013 06:27:20 PM
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I don't think that's his sole premise but it's also quite true
- 07/01/2013 07:05:20 PM
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i think you're missing a piece of the puzzle
- 07/01/2013 07:23:02 PM
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I'm not missing it, I just don't think it's wise or especially moral
- 07/01/2013 09:36:05 PM
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moral has nothing to do with it, imho
- 07/01/2013 11:26:00 PM
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Data is data my friend. Please feel free to present your own data if you would like. *NM*
- 28/12/2012 05:49:09 PM
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Is that the same Gallup that said 54% of America would vote Romney?
- 28/12/2012 06:15:43 PM
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- 28/12/2012 06:15:43 PM
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Once again data is data.....feel free to cite other polling data. *NM*
- 28/12/2012 06:38:29 PM
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The goddamn frigging election. *NM*
- 28/12/2012 07:13:04 PM
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Oh, was the NRA running for something? Good grief, was a ridiculous reach. *NM*
- 28/12/2012 08:07:56 PM
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No, but it shows Gallup polls are horseshit. *NM*
- 28/12/2012 08:48:12 PM
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No it doesn't, it only shows that Romney was more awful of a candidate than Obama was. *NM*
- 28/12/2012 09:14:00 PM
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Not according to Gallup, just most US voters; Gallup DOES say 58% of the US wants more gun control.
- 28/12/2012 10:22:19 PM
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Yes. Most of us aren't against guns per se; we're against the inane concepts of gun "shows"
- 29/12/2012 01:06:50 AM
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Exactly, crazy libs like Joel want to get rid of all guns, but normal Americans.....
- 29/12/2012 01:36:00 AM
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Too bad the radical fringe on both sides drowns us both out so well.
- 29/12/2012 02:25:31 AM
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Previous polling failures by Gallup are evidence for the claim that Gallup polls are flawed.
- 29/12/2012 01:05:08 AM
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Gallup was Romney +1 with +/- 4% on Election Day.....turned out Obama +3.
- 29/12/2012 01:33:45 AM
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So what I don't understand about this whole teachers with gun thing
- 30/12/2012 12:42:05 AM
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It would strictly be voluntary
- 30/12/2012 03:02:18 AM
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You seriously don't think a linebacker can take a gun off a 5' teacher?He can just punch her.
- 30/12/2012 09:45:05 AM
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He can already punch her, not all schools are high schools and that's not the norm for spree killers
- 30/12/2012 03:05:55 PM
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Leveling that playing field is much of the point of guns.
- 05/01/2013 05:43:47 PM
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You aren't familiar with guns if you think that a large male can't disarm a woman who has one.
- 07/01/2013 10:14:21 AM
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Well Paul Ali Slater didn't, disarming is risky, and he seems familiar enough with them to me *NM*
- 07/01/2013 01:25:28 PM
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