True, but it does demonstrate how easily and frequently notoriety motivates shootings.
Joel Send a noteboard - 26/12/2012 07:22:37 PM
They wanted to assassinate one famous person for the infamy that it brought. Chapman, sadly, succeeded, and Hinckley, happily, did not (you may disagree on whether the latter's failure was a good thing).
And serial killers are called that because they kill one person at a time (or, rarely, a couple of people at a time) in a series of killings. It's a completely different behavior pattern with a completely different psychological profile. And serial killers are REALLY not affected by gun control, since many of them use knives and other weapons designed to slow the death and allow them to get more of a high off the act of the killing.
And serial killers are called that because they kill one person at a time (or, rarely, a couple of people at a time) in a series of killings. It's a completely different behavior pattern with a completely different psychological profile. And serial killers are REALLY not affected by gun control, since many of them use knives and other weapons designed to slow the death and allow them to get more of a high off the act of the killing.
As noted in my above response to moondog, it is not as simple as saying the desire for celebrity motivates all mass shootings, because many factors can be critical, and overlapping motives are not uncommon. When mental illness leads to mass shootings, of course, no rational motive is required. As particularly noted in my response to moondog though, the line between seeking vengeance on society or merely fame is usually blurry. Taking vengeance on a group without it knowing who is responsible or even that anything happened is rather difficult, so fame is usually a required means even when not a true goal. That may or may not cover basic alienation, depending on whether the latter leads to active hatred of society or "only" replaces empathy with apathy.
Mass shootings are, regrettably, frequent enough to have varied primary causes. Fame can be among them, as is suspected in the Aurora shootings: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/psychologists-suggest-accused-killer-james-holmes-was-seeking-fame So can vengeance, as in the Ft. Hood shootings. So can mental illness, as in the UT Tower shootings. Dissociative alienation did not prompt witnesses of Kitty Genoveses murder to kill anyone, but it seems likely it did allow many of them to sit idly watching her brutally raped and murdered without even bothering to call police. There are no one-size-fits-all solutions, but every reasonable preventive step would be welcome at this point.
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20 children killed in latest US school shooting
15/12/2012 12:35:42 AM
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i know 2 people with kids there, one of them has lost their 5 year old. this is too close to home
15/12/2012 12:39:26 AM
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I lived 20 mins from there. I'm shocked. I'm even heading back there in 4 days....
15/12/2012 02:08:28 PM
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Maybe when we stop making media celebrities out of these murderers..
16/12/2012 05:36:19 PM
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Nope, won't happen.
16/12/2012 06:37:11 PM
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For each of those 30 years sociologists have warned of the growing danger of growing alienation.
16/12/2012 10:05:28 PM
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I don't know what you mean, though.
17/12/2012 05:53:44 PM
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I dunno, your response suggests you figured it out pretty quickly.
18/12/2012 05:08:12 PM
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Short form: The common phrases "suicide by cop" and "going postal" did not exist a generation ago.
18/12/2012 09:14:51 PM
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if they were after fame, they would probably all have tried to stay alive after killing everyone
16/12/2012 10:01:50 PM
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One need not be living to be famous.
16/12/2012 10:08:12 PM
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actually, i'm pretty sure you're wrong on this
17/12/2012 05:38:07 PM
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"Live fast, die young and leave a good-looking corpse," "it's better to burn out than fade away" etc
18/12/2012 03:25:23 PM
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what do your examples all have in common?
18/12/2012 08:42:59 PM
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I frequently confuse that detail of Hinckleys shooting with Chapmans, sorry.
18/12/2012 08:59:25 PM
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Chapman wasn't a mass murderer, though. Neither was Hinckley.
20/12/2012 05:15:23 AM
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True, but it does demonstrate how easily and frequently notoriety motivates shootings.
26/12/2012 07:22:37 PM
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