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I find the absolutist ant/pro-gun positions equally dangerous and absurd. Joel Send a noteboard - 26/12/2012 04:20:37 PM
which would, by the logic of gun proponents, protect her from getting killed.

Instead she got shot by them.

If the argument for owning guns is for self protection, why isn't anyone pointing out that Nancy had 5 guns to protect herself with and got shot with them instead?

She could not have stopped him with an ICBM; he could have killed her with a pillow. That sleeping people are incapable of self-defense does not invalidate it.

I think most Americans do, but the small vocal minority of extremists on both sides deny the rest of us the responsible reasonable gun control we need and want. I cannot say, "no one wants to let everyone legally buy any gun they can afford, no questions asked," because a small radical fringe demands EXACTLY that. I cannot say, "no one wants to ban/confiscate all guns," because a small radical fringe demands EXACTLY that. They are not rebutting, but VALIDATING, each other; neither would have any public credibility if the other would SHUT UP for five seconds and stop making their opponents alarmist fears so plausible.

I do not know a single rational person who thinks anyone with a felony record, mental illness or no idea how to even LOAD a gun should have one. Yet the law cannot SAY that, because the radical fringes dominate the gun control discussion, debating whether to ban all guns or let anyone who wants any gun buy it, even if still wearing their prison uniform and/or a straitjacket. The vast majority of America does not support either option, but those are the only ones we are presented, so here we are.
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When guns are a big national issue, how do reporters & pundits not know facts about them? - 21/12/2012 05:33:14 PM 1745 Views
You don't hunt by walking into a classroom and shooting 20 deer - 21/12/2012 05:56:16 PM 1168 Views
You're actually not right on that one - 21/12/2012 07:49:53 PM 1109 Views
That wasn't the point I was making - 21/12/2012 09:49:40 PM 1035 Views
You should probably clarify it then - 21/12/2012 10:47:26 PM 1212 Views
His post was perfectly clear. Yours seemed like a response to an entirely different post. - 21/12/2012 10:53:39 PM 1382 Views
Explain that remark, it is not obvious to me *NM* - 21/12/2012 11:00:10 PM 611 Views
I think - 21/12/2012 11:13:34 PM 1038 Views
Thats' easy, there is simply no such thing as a 'hunting rifle' - 21/12/2012 11:17:41 PM 1039 Views
I'd say the expert gunsmith - 21/12/2012 11:28:02 PM 1107 Views
I thought I was being perfectly clear. - 21/12/2012 10:57:35 PM 1067 Views
Re: I thought I was being perfectly clear. - 21/12/2012 11:25:04 PM 1103 Views
Oh I wasn't commenting on the standard of people here - 21/12/2012 11:29:36 PM 1058 Views
you're largely correct, which is why we need stronger laws on ownership not guns per se - 21/12/2012 09:39:14 PM 1018 Views
I can't think of a better reason than self defense - 21/12/2012 10:33:26 PM 1089 Views
He is right about Australia - 21/12/2012 10:46:27 PM 1037 Views
No kidding - 21/12/2012 10:59:28 PM 1029 Views
If you knew all that - 21/12/2012 11:02:38 PM 1097 Views
I think you are on the right track, but to the wrong destination; "lethal weapon" is redundant. - 21/12/2012 11:05:29 PM 1038 Views
My read is that the 2nd Amendment not only allows, but mandates, cop-killer bullets. - 22/12/2012 12:45:04 AM 1111 Views
Does the Second Amendment protect the rights of felons and the mentally incompetent to have guns? - 22/12/2012 02:35:16 AM 1265 Views
Some semi-autos are easily modified for full auto fire, making the distinction one w/o a difference. - 21/12/2012 10:53:59 PM 1124 Views
Correction: virtually all semi-automatics are easily convertable - 21/12/2012 11:23:35 PM 1067 Views
How many of the people I was complaining about would know that? - 22/12/2012 12:48:59 AM 1033 Views
Some, possibly? I am ever the optimist - 22/12/2012 12:58:36 AM 1010 Views
I have seen nothing on turning a semi-auto BAR into a fully automatic one. - 22/12/2012 01:11:12 AM 989 Views
What's a BAR? In any event, link a diagram and I'll let you know - 22/12/2012 01:26:31 AM 972 Views
Confusingly, there are two: The BAR you and I think of, and the "Browning BAR," a current semi-auto - 22/12/2012 01:07:30 PM 1147 Views
Department of Redundancy Department gets to name a lot of stuff, like "Milky Way Galaxy" - 22/12/2012 05:01:45 PM 1249 Views
It only bothers me when people who know better speak of "the Glieseian solar system." - 26/12/2012 05:33:34 PM 1124 Views
Both terms are pretty stuck now - 26/12/2012 10:48:38 PM 1202 Views
You realize that encourages rather than discourages my opposition to the usage, right? - 27/12/2012 01:23:15 AM 954 Views
Well I can't say it surprises - 27/12/2012 04:29:06 AM 932 Views
No one expects the Online Inquisition! - 27/12/2012 05:20:44 PM 963 Views
I've enjoyed most reboots - 28/12/2012 01:06:05 AM 890 Views
Yes the media is using terms incorrectly but the point still stands. - 22/12/2012 03:02:18 AM 972 Views
Re: Yes the media is using terms incorrectly but the point still stands. - 22/12/2012 04:12:30 AM 1029 Views
umm... - 22/12/2012 12:41:31 PM 921 Views
1997 North Hollywood Shootout - 22/12/2012 04:07:39 AM 1117 Views
Laws against murder failed to prevent that, too; clearly they are ineffective and should be repealed - 22/12/2012 06:02:24 AM 1178 Views
Such laws were never intended for prevention, they define actions that will be punished. *NM* - 23/12/2012 12:57:57 PM 637 Views
So do laws against getting a gun without screening, training and certification. - 23/12/2012 02:01:32 PM 995 Views
Then CHANGE the Constitution, don't ignore it. *NM* - 26/12/2012 03:12:11 PM 556 Views
I am not suggesting either changing or ignoring the Constitution. - 26/12/2012 04:01:02 PM 1095 Views
Yes you are. - 26/12/2012 08:06:01 PM 921 Views
Learn logic, and stop needlessly trying to teach me grammar. - 26/12/2012 08:55:25 PM 1065 Views
Lear to read, and I won't have to - 27/12/2012 04:28:59 PM 1118 Views
You are wrong. - 22/12/2012 12:14:40 PM 1048 Views
That explains much; I read somewhere Brits are averse to it. - 22/12/2012 01:17:15 PM 1013 Views
We're also averse to being wrong. - 22/12/2012 02:53:49 PM 1056 Views
So you say... - 22/12/2012 03:32:16 PM 986 Views
guns r stpid *NM* - 23/12/2012 12:39:30 AM 722 Views
What bemuses me about this thing with Adam Lanza, is that his mother had 5 registered guns - 23/12/2012 07:10:26 AM 1053 Views
She was asleep with him in the house. - 23/12/2012 02:24:47 PM 1080 Views
LOOK, look, there is another one... - 26/12/2012 03:13:45 PM 999 Views
I find the absolutist ant/pro-gun positions equally dangerous and absurd. - 26/12/2012 04:20:37 PM 1004 Views
So we should just *kinda* ignore the Constitution *this* time... But what about NEXT time... - 26/12/2012 08:08:12 PM 986 Views
No, we should enact gun regulation the Constitution explicitly empowers. - 26/12/2012 09:02:12 PM 990 Views
Which would be... NONE. *NM* - 27/12/2012 04:31:53 PM 597 Views
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state...." - 28/12/2012 05:14:49 PM 990 Views
*see previous grammar lesson* *NM* - 28/12/2012 10:31:43 PM 558 Views
The instant it becomes relevant, I shall. - 28/12/2012 11:45:01 PM 1176 Views
Your point being? - 27/12/2012 10:47:29 AM 972 Views
As a father, I would rather kill my own child than have him kill 26 other people. - 27/12/2012 04:35:02 PM 923 Views
Facts are irrelevant when FUD is the order of the day. - 24/12/2012 04:34:18 PM 959 Views
It irritates me too. *NM* - 01/01/2013 01:55:05 PM 593 Views

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