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One need not be living to be famous. Joel Send a noteboard - 16/12/2012 10:08:12 PM
there are very few examples of these shooters who have stayed alive after their rampage, for the express purpose of telling their stories to the media. anders breivik is the only one in recent memory, because he had a clear agenda he thought he was fulfilling and he relished the media attention to his manifesto. everyone else have just been people who snapped and had a gun (or two or more) at hand to allow themselves to have such a deadly legacy.

By your logic the so-called 27 Club would not exist. Doing what they do as they do it ensures lasting infamy but (they believe/hope) spares them lasting consequences.
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20 children killed in latest US school shooting moondog - 15/12/2012 12:35:42 AM 935 Views
i know 2 people with kids there, one of them has lost their 5 year old. this is too close to home Aisha - 15/12/2012 12:39:26 AM 559 Views
*NM* Orange - 16/12/2012 07:16:19 AM 265 Views
It is absolutely terrible. Tom - 15/12/2012 01:51:38 AM 589 Views
I think you're largely right. Ghavrel - 15/12/2012 03:48:59 AM 548 Views
I agree. Dannymac - 15/12/2012 04:46:45 AM 590 Views
Re: It is absolutely terrible. Avendesora - 15/12/2012 12:49:34 PM 510 Views
I do think you're right on this TheCrownless - 15/12/2012 02:24:43 PM 553 Views
whoop Hieshyn - 15/12/2012 04:35:01 AM 702 Views
So horrible. MonCul - 15/12/2012 05:53:46 AM 473 Views
I lived 20 mins from there. I'm shocked. I'm even heading back there in 4 days.... Fox and Ravens - 15/12/2012 02:08:28 PM 510 Views
one of the big problems with "wait for a better day" moondog - 15/12/2012 03:45:53 PM 492 Views
Re: one of the big problems with "wait for a better day" Fox and Ravens - 15/12/2012 06:53:51 PM 676 Views
Maybe when we stop making media celebrities out of these murderers.. Amyrlin - 16/12/2012 05:36:19 PM 503 Views
Nope, won't happen. Tom - 16/12/2012 06:37:11 PM 600 Views
For each of those 30 years sociologists have warned of the growing danger of growing alienation. Joel - 16/12/2012 10:05:28 PM 575 Views
I don't know what you mean, though. Tom - 17/12/2012 05:53:44 PM 530 Views
I dunno, your response suggests you figured it out pretty quickly. Joel - 18/12/2012 05:08:12 PM 591 Views
Well, I more or less agree with everything you said *NM* Tom - 19/12/2012 01:23:26 AM 236 Views
Short form: The common phrases "suicide by cop" and "going postal" did not exist a generation ago. Joel - 18/12/2012 09:14:51 PM 544 Views
Reducing people to economics is a terrible thing. Tom - 19/12/2012 01:28:54 AM 492 Views
if they were after fame, they would probably all have tried to stay alive after killing everyone moondog - 16/12/2012 10:01:50 PM 485 Views
One need not be living to be famous. Joel - 16/12/2012 10:08:12 PM 528 Views
actually, i'm pretty sure you're wrong on this moondog - 17/12/2012 05:38:07 PM 507 Views
"Live fast, die young and leave a good-looking corpse," "it's better to burn out than fade away" etc Joel - 18/12/2012 03:25:23 PM 630 Views
what do your examples all have in common? moondog - 18/12/2012 08:42:59 PM 540 Views
I frequently confuse that detail of Hinckleys shooting with Chapmans, sorry. Joel - 18/12/2012 08:59:25 PM 599 Views
you are going to have to define "many" moondog - 18/12/2012 10:13:33 PM 540 Views
Well, it is a relative term, and not an all-encompassing one. Joel - 26/12/2012 07:04:25 PM 583 Views
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Chapman wasn't a mass murderer, though. Neither was Hinckley. Tom - 20/12/2012 05:15:23 AM 490 Views
True, but it does demonstrate how easily and frequently notoriety motivates shootings. Joel - 26/12/2012 07:22:37 PM 537 Views
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