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funny thing about that..... moondog Send a noteboard - 14/12/2012 07:25:50 PM
Who did all those roads & public works projects....the question comes to mind "What have you done for me lately?"

I don't know how it is where you work, but can you just continue to bank off of past successes? Every year, I have a performance review. At the start of the year, I have to lay down new goals to achieve that align with the company goals. I have to continue to strive and push and grow. I can't continue to reference the things that I've done...even if they were significant.

The past is past.

The unions did a good thing. They stood in the gap. They served their purpose. Its time to move on, where every worker progresses based on their merit.

~Jeordam


one of the main reasons i left that job was because my first year performance review was pushed back to my second year, and the second one was never conducted. my bosses kept telling me verbally what a good job they thought i was doing, but they never put it on paper like i expected. not that i'm that much of a stickler for procedure, but i think it's helpful to have that conversation more than once in three years....

back to the unions though: i'm sure if i spent a few weeks at any workplace, i could find plenty of people who have progressed for reasons other than merit. let's not pretend that one only advances on merit in non-union shops. it's human nature to find the one bad thing about something and project it to encompass the entirety of every version in the whole country. just because there are some people in a union shop who may be getting a pass doesn't mean every single union in existence practices the same methods. in other words, if you can't pull your weight on the job, you are going to get fired, no matter whether you have a union or not.
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Congrats to Michigan - The Newest Right to Work State! - 12/12/2012 04:59:29 AM 1357 Views
It's great that they were able to do it. - 12/12/2012 02:45:39 PM 698 Views
I just think it's so... odd... that people don't realize things constantly evolve. - 12/12/2012 05:18:11 PM 640 Views
Isn't this a symptom of evolution? - 12/12/2012 06:12:36 PM 682 Views
we also don't need unions to keep people on the job who are bad at it..... - 12/12/2012 06:20:22 PM 679 Views
Unions are all about protecting underperforming workers and the union leadership. - 12/12/2012 06:37:41 PM 615 Views
Dude, that's insane. - 12/12/2012 06:58:42 PM 678 Views
That's a bit naive. And instead of evolution, I should have said "ever-changing" - 12/12/2012 06:55:41 PM 564 Views
No, big companies aren't all of a sudden altruistic... - 12/12/2012 07:33:16 PM 618 Views
your three examples are of employers demanding workers do more for less - 12/12/2012 07:41:12 PM 717 Views
The good and the bad of unions: - 12/12/2012 10:33:46 PM 793 Views
Double post. - 12/12/2012 10:33:50 PM 852 Views
Yes, and if there was not a union... - 13/12/2012 04:56:57 AM 614 Views
What are the downsides of Unions? *NM* - 12/12/2012 10:30:17 PM 404 Views
What are the upsides for anyone BUT unions? - 13/12/2012 11:58:23 PM 712 Views
the answer to the political influence is hard campaign contribution limits from individuals only - 14/12/2012 12:27:57 AM 600 Views
- 19/12/2012 01:33:13 AM 823 Views
I was hoping to hear what a union supporter recognizes as flaws of unions. - 14/12/2012 08:55:46 PM 720 Views
I'll tell you what my perceptions are.... - 14/12/2012 09:30:33 PM 743 Views
one point i need to address here: - 14/12/2012 10:09:24 PM 568 Views
Sorry, didn't realize this was addressed to me. Sure, ok: - 15/12/2012 05:14:57 AM 773 Views
it's great? - 12/12/2012 05:29:00 PM 652 Views
Pissed off people.... - 12/12/2012 06:16:49 PM 568 Views
again, what industry will those people looking for work go to in michigan? - 12/12/2012 06:23:47 PM 694 Views
This used to be the case, but no longer. - 12/12/2012 06:34:01 PM 556 Views
but that's my point exactly - 12/12/2012 06:40:20 PM 611 Views
Which industry are you refering to? *NM* - 12/12/2012 06:23:55 PM 326 Views
As a native Michigander, I can tell you it's great. - 12/12/2012 06:26:53 PM 591 Views
+1 - This is going to help bring jobs to MI and benefit the auto industry. - 12/12/2012 06:33:43 PM 583 Views
So let me get this straight. - 13/12/2012 03:54:14 PM 654 Views
Yes, it's a good thing, a very, very good thing! - 13/12/2012 05:45:43 PM 600 Views
no "right to work" in MO, MT, CO, NM, KY, WV, OH, MA, NY, DE, MN, WI, PA, OR, WA, HI, AK, MD - 13/12/2012 06:56:17 PM 641 Views
Just to play devil's advocate... - 13/12/2012 09:12:02 PM 607 Views
That would be an interesting study... - 13/12/2012 09:51:21 PM 590 Views
Re: Just to play devil's advocate... - 13/12/2012 09:57:07 PM 553 Views
I, for one, stipulate that you are correct. - 13/12/2012 10:06:34 PM 637 Views
Re: I, for one, stipulate that you are correct. - 13/12/2012 10:18:27 PM 604 Views
How is that wrong? - 13/12/2012 10:52:24 PM 570 Views
it's wrong because it ultimately drives down *all* workers' pay, not just the unions - 13/12/2012 11:26:00 PM 588 Views
Your argument is completely fallacious. - 14/12/2012 04:17:58 AM 583 Views
A brilliant argument... - 14/12/2012 07:23:53 AM 657 Views
the only reason unions are obsolete is because republicans don't want them supporting dems - 14/12/2012 06:43:56 PM 582 Views
Unions being obsolete has almost nothing to do with internal American politics - 14/12/2012 07:10:38 PM 517 Views
i would disagree, at least with respect to the spate of "right to work" laws being pushed through - 14/12/2012 07:32:26 PM 594 Views
Unions aren't going to help rein in CEO pay or corporate profits. - 14/12/2012 10:48:51 PM 565 Views
i'll take you one further.... - 14/12/2012 11:24:26 PM 522 Views
I have suggested that before - 15/12/2012 02:31:07 PM 574 Views
so you did. sorry about that! - 15/12/2012 03:59:16 PM 540 Views
So to work with your thoughts (regarding the Romans) - 14/12/2012 06:07:06 PM 576 Views
funny thing about that..... - 14/12/2012 07:25:50 PM 518 Views
And so what if they are all shit jobs with substandard pay! - 14/12/2012 07:08:41 AM 594 Views
What do you want me to say? - 14/12/2012 05:58:45 PM 696 Views
And so the destruction of the Middle Class continues. *NM* - 13/12/2012 03:43:36 PM 315 Views
Damn, I agree with Anonymous2000. - 14/12/2012 04:29:36 AM 638 Views
This must be a trying time for you. - 14/12/2012 07:06:56 AM 591 Views
Callandor sees the light, perhaps it's time for you as well! *NM* - 14/12/2012 02:08:47 PM 280 Views
HOW they are doing it..is bullshit - 13/12/2012 06:33:09 PM 733 Views
How? Residents of MI elected a Republican legislature and Governor..... - 13/12/2012 09:25:43 PM 558 Views

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