SCOTUS Justice Antonin Scalia is brilliant, just brilliant -
Anonymous2000 Send a noteboard - 11/12/2012 05:09:19 AM
Scalia is brilliant and his wisdom is what all judges should live by. The text is what it is, period, end of story. If something isn't addressed in the constitution, it's up to the people and states. If there is something people don't like anymore, amendment the constitution. Simple as that.
Why are libs so scared of this? I know why, but let's see who can guess!
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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia rejects idea of 'Living Constitution'
Alice Su/For The Times of Trenton
December 10, 2012
PRINCETON BOROUGH — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia does not believe that America has a living constitution.
“The constitution is not an organism. It’s a legal text,” Scalia told a few hundred campus and community members at a talk in Princeton University’s Richardson Auditorium this afternoon. “It means today what it meant when it was adopted.”
The associate justice, who was born in Trenton and grew up in New York, returned to the area to talk about his recent book “Reading Law: The Interpretation of Legal Text,” which defends originalism and textualism, the beliefs that law should be interpreted according to its original text and meaning. They are the fairest approaches to constitutional interpretation, he said.
“Our statutes don’t morph. They don’t change meaning from age to age to comport with whatever the zeitgeist thinks appropriate,” Scalia said. “When you read Chaucer, you try to figure out what the words meant when they were put down on paper. It’s the same thing with the law.”
Most American courts today rule by a “living constitution” idea: that the constitution should be interpreted in accordance with the times, taking on new meaning based on each generation’s understanding, Scalia said. But this principle threatens American democracy by affording too much power to the Supreme Court, he said.
“If the constitution is not an ordinary law but rather this empty bottle into which each generation is going to pour the liquid that it desires, why should the bottle be filled by nine unelected judges?” Scalia asked. “Why would you think these nine unelected members have their thumb on the pulse of people so they know what the evolving standards of decency are?”
Judges who do not adhere to originalism misuse the Constitution to legislate their own moral beliefs, Scalia said.
“If you think the proponents of a living constitution want to bring you flexibility, think again. They want to bring you what a constitution is designed to bring, which is rigidity,” Scalia said. “They want society to do things their way now and forever, coast to coast.”
Scalia said his alternative both provided true flexibility and preserved the power of democratic legislation.
“My constitution is a very flexible one. There’s nothing in it about abortion and since there isn’t, it’s up to the citizens,” Scalia said. “Things change by democratic choice. The Supreme Court doesn’t have to abolish the death penalty. If the feelings of society come against it, it will be abolished by the states.”
Scalia also said that the Constitution protects freedom not through the Bill of Rights, but through provision for a structure of checks and balances.
“Every tinhorn dictator of the world has a bill of rights,” Scalia said. “With the right structure, you will preserve freedom even without a bill of rights. If you don’t have the right structure, even a bill of rights will not save you. They are just words on paper unless the structure of the government prevents the centralization of power in one party or one man.”
Scalia said the first half of his recent book defends originalism.
“There is no other objective criteria,” Scalia said. “You either adopt originalism or essentially you say to your judges, ‘Come govern us.’”
The second half of the book discusses the practices of textual interpretation, he said.
Several audience members asked Scalia how he determined the founders’ original intent, especially in situations where the constitutional terms were broad or unclear.
“You never heard me utter the words ‘original intent.’ I don’t care what their intent was. I care what it was that they intended,” Scalia said. “What the text means is what the people understood it to mean when it was adopted.”
As for broad terms like “due process” and “equal protection,” Scalia said their interpretation also depended on the meaning they were understood to have when first adopted. Beyond that understanding, Scalia said, legislation should be left to the democratic process, especially on moral issues like abortion and homosexuality.
“You do not want to constitutionalize everything because you take away democratic choice. Don’t constitutionalize the death penalty. Don’t constitutionalize abortion,” Scalia said. “The constitution doesn’t mean a bill of rights. It means structure.”
Why are libs so scared of this? I know why, but let's see who can guess!
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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia rejects idea of 'Living Constitution'
Alice Su/For The Times of Trenton
December 10, 2012
PRINCETON BOROUGH — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia does not believe that America has a living constitution.
“The constitution is not an organism. It’s a legal text,” Scalia told a few hundred campus and community members at a talk in Princeton University’s Richardson Auditorium this afternoon. “It means today what it meant when it was adopted.”
The associate justice, who was born in Trenton and grew up in New York, returned to the area to talk about his recent book “Reading Law: The Interpretation of Legal Text,” which defends originalism and textualism, the beliefs that law should be interpreted according to its original text and meaning. They are the fairest approaches to constitutional interpretation, he said.
“Our statutes don’t morph. They don’t change meaning from age to age to comport with whatever the zeitgeist thinks appropriate,” Scalia said. “When you read Chaucer, you try to figure out what the words meant when they were put down on paper. It’s the same thing with the law.”
Most American courts today rule by a “living constitution” idea: that the constitution should be interpreted in accordance with the times, taking on new meaning based on each generation’s understanding, Scalia said. But this principle threatens American democracy by affording too much power to the Supreme Court, he said.
“If the constitution is not an ordinary law but rather this empty bottle into which each generation is going to pour the liquid that it desires, why should the bottle be filled by nine unelected judges?” Scalia asked. “Why would you think these nine unelected members have their thumb on the pulse of people so they know what the evolving standards of decency are?”
Judges who do not adhere to originalism misuse the Constitution to legislate their own moral beliefs, Scalia said.
“If you think the proponents of a living constitution want to bring you flexibility, think again. They want to bring you what a constitution is designed to bring, which is rigidity,” Scalia said. “They want society to do things their way now and forever, coast to coast.”
Scalia said his alternative both provided true flexibility and preserved the power of democratic legislation.
“My constitution is a very flexible one. There’s nothing in it about abortion and since there isn’t, it’s up to the citizens,” Scalia said. “Things change by democratic choice. The Supreme Court doesn’t have to abolish the death penalty. If the feelings of society come against it, it will be abolished by the states.”
Scalia also said that the Constitution protects freedom not through the Bill of Rights, but through provision for a structure of checks and balances.
“Every tinhorn dictator of the world has a bill of rights,” Scalia said. “With the right structure, you will preserve freedom even without a bill of rights. If you don’t have the right structure, even a bill of rights will not save you. They are just words on paper unless the structure of the government prevents the centralization of power in one party or one man.”
Scalia said the first half of his recent book defends originalism.
“There is no other objective criteria,” Scalia said. “You either adopt originalism or essentially you say to your judges, ‘Come govern us.’”
The second half of the book discusses the practices of textual interpretation, he said.
Several audience members asked Scalia how he determined the founders’ original intent, especially in situations where the constitutional terms were broad or unclear.
“You never heard me utter the words ‘original intent.’ I don’t care what their intent was. I care what it was that they intended,” Scalia said. “What the text means is what the people understood it to mean when it was adopted.”
As for broad terms like “due process” and “equal protection,” Scalia said their interpretation also depended on the meaning they were understood to have when first adopted. Beyond that understanding, Scalia said, legislation should be left to the democratic process, especially on moral issues like abortion and homosexuality.
“You do not want to constitutionalize everything because you take away democratic choice. Don’t constitutionalize the death penalty. Don’t constitutionalize abortion,” Scalia said. “The constitution doesn’t mean a bill of rights. It means structure.”
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11/12/2012 05:09:19 AM
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WTF does "I don’t care what their intent was. I care what it was that they intended" mean?
11/12/2012 09:03:23 PM
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Yeah I read that twice to see if that was right *NM*
11/12/2012 09:36:55 PM
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Part of me pities Scalias decline, because he could once nimbly and convincly argue black is white.
12/12/2012 07:09:56 PM
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Re: your post.
12/12/2012 07:18:18 PM
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More like disapeared in a puff of Florida's own law that they were trying to ignore.
12/12/2012 08:13:13 PM
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Florida state law does not and did not prohibit statewide recounts.
16/12/2012 01:45:52 PM
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Spoken like a true lib.....I could have written that for you.
12/12/2012 05:08:42 AM
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The people of WA and CO just decided pot should be legal; think Scalia agrees?
12/12/2012 07:25:11 PM
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FreshMints decided that the almond aroma of radioactive arsenic is very pleasing...
12/12/2012 08:09:39 PM
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I am aware of Scalias "logic," and his rejection of it about a year later with Robamacare.
16/12/2012 01:51:16 PM
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But you didn't.
13/12/2012 04:06:05 PM
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Yup, yup; the Constitution is all about majority rule WITH minority rights.
16/12/2012 01:56:15 PM
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Your whole rant lacks any logic
12/12/2012 03:46:34 PM
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His comment references the authors (NOT words) intent in both negative and affirmative.
12/12/2012 06:45:02 PM
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I was stumped by his phrasing as well
12/12/2012 09:31:53 PM
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But we must go by his words and his understanding of their meaning, without interpretation.
16/12/2012 01:40:23 PM
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The SCotUS is no place for raging homophobes.
13/12/2012 04:48:30 AM
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Sorry you don't like it, but what he said is true.
13/12/2012 03:11:42 PM
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Lol. Homophobia is synonymous w/ homonegativism. It's not meant to convey a true phobia *NM*
13/12/2012 03:28:01 PM
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Only for people who don't know actually know how to read and understand words. Nice spin though. *NM*
13/12/2012 05:54:29 PM
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So then what we need is a definition of homophobia?
13/12/2012 09:56:15 PM
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Re: So then what we need is a definition of homophobia?
13/12/2012 11:16:46 PM
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-phobe : Greek -phobos, adj. derivative of phóbos fear, panic
13/12/2012 11:32:14 PM
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Do you have a similar problem with "xenophobia?" Because it's exactly the same thing.
14/12/2012 01:30:24 AM
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xenophobia is the fear of the alien... WTF are you trying to say?
14/12/2012 03:03:09 AM
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No. You are patently, objectively incorrect.
14/12/2012 08:39:00 AM
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Don't believe me, ask a Greek it is after all THEIR word. I gave you some extra capitals, happy now? *NM*
14/12/2012 02:56:09 PM
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stop being obtuse
14/12/2012 05:10:41 PM
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Hmmmm lets see, people misuse a word, perverting its meaning...
14/12/2012 07:29:11 PM
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If everyone "misuses" a word, that becomes an acceptable use of it.
14/12/2012 10:14:23 PM
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Re: If everyone "misuses" a word, that becomes an acceptable use of it.
15/12/2012 12:12:18 AM
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and if everryone jumps off a cliff to splatter on the rocks I should just be a good little lemming.
15/12/2012 07:13:27 AM
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actually, you have already chosen stupid by pretending the word means something it does not
15/12/2012 03:34:35 PM
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA, my friend John would strenuously disagree.
16/12/2012 06:50:19 AM
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and you are a small-minded buffoon who can't come up with real arguments so you resort to nitpicking
17/12/2012 11:48:25 PM
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