I took it as a literal statement, the language implied as much to me...
Isaac Send a noteboard - 11/11/2012 08:45:16 PM
If you didn't mean it that way it's fine but while I've a great deal of respect for Tom and absolutely acknowledge his mastery on several subjects but not on this one anymore than on physics.
Normally I'd agree about the head-in-sand part but I generally am the person who specifically does the reverse, I tend to be the default Devil's Advocate. The bias is still there, it's unavoidable, but in my experience the GOP party officials - not the pundits or the 'minions' - tend to be very pessimistic sorts who go with Murphy's Law... a lot of the Dem Chairs tend to be the same though maybe a bit less, hard to say, or hard for me to say anyway. These are fairly invisible people though, as an example, do you know who your Dem or GOP Chairmen is? State or County? Damn few do. In any event whenever I read news or punditry on stuff I've had a hand in I always raise an eyebrow and wonder what game they were watching and one of my friends on the left who is in a similar state does the same. I think we're right on this... journalists are lazy and pundits are more interested in collection of speaking fees.
I'm not sure, I personally want to avoid even studying the stuff for a month or two, cooler heads and all. My gut says the GOP is still hunting around for a real position besides anti-liberal and we need to find that and sell it to Joe.
I'd get into the fact being directly involved in the party probably involves an aspect of "head in the sand" that an outsider looking in doesn't but the main point is Tom is a relative authority on the matter and he acknowledges some things need fixing.
Normally I'd agree about the head-in-sand part but I generally am the person who specifically does the reverse, I tend to be the default Devil's Advocate. The bias is still there, it's unavoidable, but in my experience the GOP party officials - not the pundits or the 'minions' - tend to be very pessimistic sorts who go with Murphy's Law... a lot of the Dem Chairs tend to be the same though maybe a bit less, hard to say, or hard for me to say anyway. These are fairly invisible people though, as an example, do you know who your Dem or GOP Chairmen is? State or County? Damn few do. In any event whenever I read news or punditry on stuff I've had a hand in I always raise an eyebrow and wonder what game they were watching and one of my friends on the left who is in a similar state does the same. I think we're right on this... journalists are lazy and pundits are more interested in collection of speaking fees.
I also wasn't criticising the GOP for lack of effort, besides their core is much more motivated and they have much less to gain by heavy campaigning elsewhere than the Dems because the audience you're trying to appeal to isn't as likely to vote for you unless you change some of your stances anyway.
I'm not sure, I personally want to avoid even studying the stuff for a month or two, cooler heads and all. My gut says the GOP is still hunting around for a real position besides anti-liberal and we need to find that and sell it to Joe.
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What next for Romney and the Republican party?
07/11/2012 03:51:50 PM
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In my view, more moderation is needed.
07/11/2012 04:17:05 PM
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Pretty sure seniors are growing MORE numerous, not less. You're probably right about the rest. *NM*
07/11/2012 05:03:17 PM
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That's true, but I don't think that's the right way to look at it.
07/11/2012 05:18:52 PM
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying, and I agree with the overall point.
07/11/2012 07:52:33 PM
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Libertarian is the way to go IMO.
07/11/2012 05:19:29 PM
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totally agree, i was quite disappointed Johnson didn't get better results *NM*
07/11/2012 06:15:09 PM
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I'd say they're pretty much done
07/11/2012 07:54:44 PM
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I'm not sure about that.
07/11/2012 08:04:33 PM
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Again, the numbers you cited will continue to shrink every year.
07/11/2012 08:25:21 PM
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They're through. They've been utterly crushed, demolished, and annihilated after last night.
07/11/2012 10:34:47 PM
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Well Romney is retiring but no the GOP is hardly 'done'
08/11/2012 12:51:44 AM
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I do hope the Republican party have the same lax attitude, I love seeing them lose *NM*
08/11/2012 12:46:32 PM
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I imagine lots of idiots feel the same way on both sides about both parties *NM*
08/11/2012 11:05:29 PM
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If you're relying on the democrats crashing and burning
09/11/2012 02:45:41 PM
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the dems played the "wait for the repubs to crash and burn" strategy and it worked out ok this year
09/11/2012 05:01:53 PM
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Off topic, but is your Shift key broken?
09/11/2012 05:47:12 PM
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do you have similar problems when talking to people with weird hair color or clothes IRL?
09/11/2012 07:09:24 PM
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The Dems learned their lesson from the Gore campaign
09/11/2012 06:25:23 PM
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i beg to differ
09/11/2012 07:22:40 PM
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The facts speak for themselves
09/11/2012 07:46:20 PM
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Re: The facts speak for themselves
11/11/2012 01:13:05 AM
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i'm quite curious about one thing, since i know you're such a numbers guy
11/11/2012 02:01:31 PM
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Re: i'm quite curious about one thing, since i know you're such a numbers guy
11/11/2012 05:48:09 PM
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I've also got a question for you
11/11/2012 02:16:07 PM
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Re: I've also got a question for you
11/11/2012 04:51:55 PM
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Re: I've also got a question for you
11/11/2012 05:48:52 PM
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There's also the fake or exaggeration aspect that might be in play but I can't judge that
11/11/2012 06:44:16 PM
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I think you were taking that statement rather literally
11/11/2012 07:36:14 PM
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I took it as a literal statement, the language implied as much to me...
11/11/2012 08:45:16 PM
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Oh, I can absolutely count on them crahsing and burning, that's a given, happens to both regularly *NM*
09/11/2012 06:28:51 PM
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You can't count on exploiting that
09/11/2012 06:39:47 PM
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'Mistakes' is subjective, sometimes you have to play your hand
11/11/2012 01:09:31 AM
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how are 300+ EVs "the skin of his teeth"?
08/11/2012 05:46:51 PM
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Because he barely won them? *NM*
08/11/2012 11:06:14 PM
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only OH, NC and FL are within 2% margin, i'd hardly call that "barely won"
08/11/2012 11:25:54 PM
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What makes you think Hillary won't be running?
08/11/2012 06:07:38 PM
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hillary has stated time and again she is done when she steps down as sec'y of state
08/11/2012 11:27:56 PM
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While I agree with the overall point that the Republican party isn't done by any means
08/11/2012 11:53:12 PM
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Romney is done; the last defeated nominee to be renominated was Nixon.
08/11/2012 04:53:52 PM
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