subs are really really cramped. Ever heard the phrase hot racking?
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 29/09/2009 03:23:33 PM
Hot racking is what they call in when you share a bed with someone on a different shift. We are not talking just close quarters we are insanely close quarters and very small crews. A Virginia class sub only has around 100 people on it and it is just over 300 feet long, basically a football field. Someone rubs you wring way you can get away from them.
Long range nuclear subs already push the limits of how much people can tolerate each other. Throw sex drive in mix and you are simply asking for problems. Keep in mind these are multibillion dollar ships of war operating in very dangerous conditions. You ask why not try and the answer is because if things go wrong people can die and we could lose very expensive ships. It takes very strict discipline to keeps these ships functioning as well as they have.
A better question is what is to be gained. If it doesn’t give us a stronger navy then it is a bad idea. The military is instrument of war not social engineering.
Long range nuclear subs already push the limits of how much people can tolerate each other. Throw sex drive in mix and you are simply asking for problems. Keep in mind these are multibillion dollar ships of war operating in very dangerous conditions. You ask why not try and the answer is because if things go wrong people can die and we could lose very expensive ships. It takes very strict discipline to keeps these ships functioning as well as they have.
A better question is what is to be gained. If it doesn’t give us a stronger navy then it is a bad idea. The military is instrument of war not social engineering.
"Military may lift ban on women in submarines" (Reuters)
- 28/09/2009 08:26:30 PM
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gives new meaning to the old joke....
- 28/09/2009 09:47:36 PM
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*NM*
my favorite joke from Navy basic training (mature readers only, poorly veiled sexual reference)
- 28/09/2009 10:06:51 PM
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As I understand it, there are very good reasons why they don't let women on submarines.
- 28/09/2009 09:50:39 PM
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frankly i get along better with women who are menstruating with me.
- 28/09/2009 11:26:05 PM
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seems like a strange choice to me
- 28/09/2009 10:26:24 PM
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if you can't keep it zipped
- 28/09/2009 11:35:35 PM
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Correct and yet it happens all too frequently already.
- 29/09/2009 12:43:15 AM
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In my mind, that's a pretty pathetic arguement.
- 29/09/2009 01:02:31 AM
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WHOA!
- 29/09/2009 01:14:27 AM
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Dude I know!!
- 29/09/2009 01:20:27 AM
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Hehehe, we could "name the show".
- 29/09/2009 01:26:11 AM
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XD Or even better!!!
- 29/09/2009 01:40:50 AM
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ROFL!
- 29/09/2009 01:47:07 AM
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Your comparison to segregation is idiotic. I won't even give such a stupid claim a second thought. *NM*
- 29/09/2009 01:44:46 AM
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I love how you disregard my entire arguement based on that one factor
- 29/09/2009 01:48:09 AM
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It is an irresponsible comparison. Even in your response to my comment you can't make it work. *NM*
- 29/09/2009 06:39:48 PM
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Actually I could see her point. She was thinking along a different line than you thought she was. *NM*
- 29/09/2009 02:57:17 AM
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It's not idiotic at all.
- 29/09/2009 05:21:49 AM
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Sweden has women on subs, as do (at least) Norway, Germany, Australia and Canada *NM*
- 29/09/2009 07:38:43 AM
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Just wondering..
- 29/09/2009 12:42:22 PM
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well since all of those countries use diesel/electric subs I would no they don't stay out as long
- 29/09/2009 03:10:34 PM
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There's also the fact that none of those countries have nuclear weapons
- 29/09/2009 03:14:48 PM
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Racial prejudice has nothing to do with envy over who is fucking who. It is not a valid comparison. *NM*
- 29/09/2009 06:40:57 PM
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~Plays devils advocate~ Lets pretend...
- 29/09/2009 02:54:03 AM
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By that same token, should women also be banned from long business trips? *NM*
- 29/09/2009 03:23:22 AM
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Re: ~Plays devils advocate~ Lets pretend...
- 29/09/2009 03:23:31 AM
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It might be true in some situations, but it's a weak argument against this issue.
- 29/09/2009 05:15:47 AM
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subs are really really cramped. Ever heard the phrase hot racking?
- 29/09/2009 03:23:33 PM
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"The military is instrument of war not social engineering." Excelent point. *NM*
- 30/09/2009 12:34:28 AM
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oh please will people stop the “it worked with segregation argument”
- 29/09/2009 03:01:48 PM
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A submariner's perspective
- 29/09/2009 08:30:45 AM
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That was not Beqi but Grimbear. I was signed in but it still credited the post to her. GRRR! *NM*
- 29/09/2009 08:32:21 AM
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Interesting.
- 29/09/2009 09:55:11 AM
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a rack is just the name for a bed
- 29/09/2009 03:30:05 PM
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See, that's a good reason.
- 29/09/2009 01:29:32 PM
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before you knock the return to high school argument
- 29/09/2009 10:39:47 PM
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which i think is just silly in the terms of greater age-related legalities 
- 30/09/2009 12:08:46 AM
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- 30/09/2009 12:08:46 AM
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Re: which i think is just silly in the terms of greater age-related legalities
- 30/09/2009 01:12:05 AM
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- 30/09/2009 01:12:05 AM
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